01-26-2009, 02:42 PM | #1 |
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collecting fast offerings
what is the point?
I have never been in a ward where this is done. Yet in the Aaronic Priesthood manual, it is the 4th lesson of the year, the importance of doing this. I understand that it is traditional in places like Utah with high densities of Mormons. But it feels more like Utah-centric Mormonism that ignores the realities of "the mission field" (a stupid phrase). I ignored the lesson and didn't give it. |
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Back to the topic, it helps deacons to get their first taste of priesthood service.
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As if parents and youth leaders need to be pulled away yet again from the rest of their families for this "service". I get the point that it's about service. But it's also clear that most wards choose not to do this outside of Mormon-ville. |
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Regarding pulling away parents and youth leaders away from family: where possible, deacons should go with their fathers. Compared to the amount of time kids spend at football practice or baseball camp, it's a relative minor sacrifice of time.
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When I was scoutmaster/deacon's quorum advisor we gathered fast offerings but only for those families that for some reason preferred to pay in that manner as opposed to donating at the same time they paid their tithing. This represented less than 10% of the ward so it only took a few minutes. I was toying with the idea of suggesting that we convince the this 10% to convert to the pay-with-tithing method. Then we got a directive from the stake presidency (about 3-4 years ago). They wanted each and every home in the ward to be visited by the deacons for an old-fashioned fast offering collection every month. It went from a ten minute exercise into a 1.5-2 hr exercise. And for the first few months, those poor deacons got yelled at by a lot of members ("Hey, I told you guys that we pay it with our tithing. Why do you keep coming?").
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I suppose if the stake presidency is going to insist, it would help to inform the members they are coming so they can keep their tempers in check. Just for the record, I don't care one way or the other how fast offerings are collected. But I see why some priesthood leaders might find it a valuable exercise.
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01-26-2009, 06:57 PM | #10 |
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actually knocking on doors and being yelled at is good preparation for a priesthood holder as well. Happens frequently.
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