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All-American · 01-23-2007, 02:49 PM

I think people should just learn the original languages. That will solve all sorts of problems.

To paraphrase Joseph Smith: "I teach them ancient languages, and they translate themselves."

Indy Coug · 01-23-2007, 03:06 PM

The Bible is such a hodgepodge collection of writings and so rife with incompetent translation and deliberate omissions/mistranslations to render it largely useless.

Why else did the Book of Mormon contain numerous Isaiah chapters? Why else did the Pearl of Great Price come forth?

The New Testament has some value as it contains an account of the ministry and Atonement of Christ, but the bulk of the Bible is a waste of time; given what can be found in the other standard works.

Flame away.

P.S. God did forbid Nephi to write down his vision that was also recorded by John the Beloved in Revelation, so I'll concede that book has value too.

hyrum · 01-23-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ute4ever

While spending time in the blessed Arkansas-Little Rock mission, I found the eXtreme Teen Bible was quite popular amongst the locals. A Jesus who said "wassup" was more appealing.

Is there an Ebonics translation with street cred available in Oakland?

Indy Coug · 01-23-2007, 04:36 PM

'...And Lot's daughters got jiggy with it and started knockin' da boots...'

Jeff Lebowski · 01-23-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

The Bible is such a hodgepodge collection of writings and so rife with incompetent translation and deliberate omissions/mistranslations to render it largely useless.

Why else did the Book of Mormon contain numerous Isaiah chapters? Why else did the Pearl of Great Price come forth?

The New Testament has some value as it contains an account of the ministry and Atonement of Christ, but the bulk of the Bible is a waste of time; given what can be found in the other standard works.

Flame away.

P.S. God did forbid Nephi to write down his vision that was also recorded by John the Beloved in Revelation, so I'll concede that book has value too.

You're joking, right?

Indy Coug · 01-23-2007, 05:35 PM

Not really. I was a little dramatic, but that essentially summarizes my attitude.

Chapel-Hill-Coug · 01-23-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Not really. I was a little dramatic, but that essentially summarizes my attitude.

Then I guess you'd have no objection if the LDS church ever started using a decent translation so that those of us who would like to understand the Bible can benefit. THE best translation out there and one that could rid the exegetical cobwebs out of LDS theology once and for all is the NRSV. As an example just read the *real* translation of 1 Cor 15:40-42 in the NRSV and you'll see what I mean.

SeattleUte · 01-23-2007, 07:10 PM

Just enjoy the KJV. It's great art, i.e., great literature (unlike the Book of Mormon). That's the purpose of great literature, sublime enjoyment through psychic reward of great art. Accept the KJV for what it is and you will maximize your enjoyment of it. It never pretended to be an exact translation of anything. The people who created it didn't pretend to be proxies for the finger of God. They were pretty smart.

creekster · 01-23-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chapel-Hill-Coug

Then I guess you'd have no objection if the LDS church ever started using a decent translation so that those of us who would like to understand the Bible can benefit. THE best translation out there and one that could rid the exegetical cobwebs out of LDS theology once and for all is the NRSV. As an example just read the *real* translation of 1 Cor 15:40-42 in the NRSV and you'll see what I mean.

Exegetical? Who thought I would have to think so hard to keep up with a stinkin' sports board?

SeattleUte · 01-23-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

The Bible is such a hodgepodge collection of writings and so rife with incompetent translation and deliberate omissions/mistranslations to render it largely useless.

Why else did the Book of Mormon contain numerous Isaiah chapters? Why else did the Pearl of Great Price come forth?

The New Testament has some value as it contains an account of the ministry and Atonement of Christ, but the bulk of the Bible is a waste of time; given what can be found in the other standard works.

Flame away.

P.S. God did forbid Nephi to write down his vision that was also recorded by John the Beloved in Revelation, so I'll concede that book has value too.

Indy, all I have to say in response to this drivel is you have demonstrable native intelligence and a keen insight into some things. It's a pity; you are capable of so much more.

01-23-2007, 02:49 PM	#11
All-American Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,420	I think people should just learn the original languages. That will solve all sorts of problems. To paraphrase Joseph Smith: "I teach them ancient languages, and they translate themselves." __________________ εν αρχη ην ο λογος

01-23-2007, 07:10 PM	#18
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	Just enjoy the KJV. It's great art, i.e., great literature (unlike the Book of Mormon). That's the purpose of great literature, sublime enjoyment through psychic reward of great art. Accept the KJV for what it is and you will maximize your enjoyment of it. It never pretended to be an exact translation of anything. The people who created it didn't pretend to be proxies for the finger of God. They were pretty smart. __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster Last edited by SeattleUte; 01-23-2007 at 07:15 PM.

01-23-2007, 03:06 PM	#12
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	The Bible is such a hodgepodge collection of writings and so rife with incompetent translation and deliberate omissions/mistranslations to render it largely useless. Why else did the Book of Mormon contain numerous Isaiah chapters? Why else did the Pearl of Great Price come forth? The New Testament has some value as it contains an account of the ministry and Atonement of Christ, but the bulk of the Bible is a waste of time; given what can be found in the other standard works. Flame away. P.S. God did forbid Nephi to write down his vision that was also recorded by John the Beloved in Revelation, so I'll concede that book has value too.

01-23-2007, 04:36 PM	#14
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	'...And Lot's daughters got jiggy with it and started knockin' da boots...'

01-23-2007, 05:35 PM	#16
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	Not really. I was a little dramatic, but that essentially summarizes my attitude.