What do we make of this Iran vs. USA conflict?

[MikeWaters]

I have a question. Do Iranians really have freedom and fair elections as we understand it in the west?

[Mindfulcoug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I have a question. Do Iranians really have freedom and fair elections as we understand it in the west?

I don’t know much about your election system but I know enough to say that you still can’t figure out how it works. You chose trump over Clinton! it still seems like a joke.

We, on the other hand, have a system to eliminate whoever has slightly different set of thinking and policies at the first place to make sure none of them get elected. lol

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Mindfulcoug

I don’t know much about your election system but I know enough to say that you still can’t figure out how it works. You chose trump over Clinton! it still seems like a joke.

We, on the other hand, have a system to eliminate whoever has slightly different set of thinking and policies at the first place to make sure none of them get elected. lol

People may live under whatever system they wish. I would not wish to live under a system where religion has a significant influence on government.

If one looks at the three Abrahamic religions, you'll see the religions are largely responsible for many of the world's wars.

Totalitarian regimes tend only to benefit those at the top with no hope for those at the bottom but there are plenty of places where life could be enjoyable---- if you leave politics out of it.

[MikeWaters]

I think it must be embarrassing for the average person in Iran to see Trump tweet out a request that Iran not shoots it's own citizen protesters.

Only to see protesters shot by their own government.

I don't think the average Iranian likes their government. What a destructive path that regime has led their people into. It's sad for them.

[Mindfulcoug]

Its unfathomable for an average person in Iran to understand the level of embarrassment you are feeling for having Trump as an American let alone the president of the united state of America.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Mindfulcoug

Its unfathomable for an average person in Iran to understand the level of embarrassment you are feeling for having Trump as an American let alone the president of the united state of America.

That's a complete misreading of America. I know the outside world has been trained to believe that Trump is a buffoon and that people in America hate him.

Most likely he's going to be reelected. One of the reasons is that he generally has stuck with what he promised to do. Most politicians never do so.

[MikeWaters]

Iran is also misreading Trump if they think he is not willing to make a deal. But not like Obama. Obama would give away the house. Trump won't.

[Mindfulcoug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Iran is also misreading Trump if they think he is not willing to make a deal. But not like Obama. Obama would give away the house. Trump won't.

What would you do if you were Iran? Would you trust Trump to struck a deal with? What if your next president didn’t like Trump deal? Would you be willing to break Trump deal and build the new one to please new white house occupant?

See where it is going?

[Mindfulcoug]

What house Obama gave away? You mean the 150b$? The money was ours. The court had ruled out US confiscating the money. American tax payers would have to pay the interest to Iranians for keeping the money. It was a win for you.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Mindfulcoug

What would you do if you were Iran? Would you trust Trump to struck a deal with? What if your next president didn’t like Trump deal? Would you be willing to break Trump deal and build the new one to please new white house occupant?

See where it is going?

Or you could just continue down the path of being a pariah state. For what purpose? Why not join the modern world?

Why the continuous apocalyptic vision?