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10-27-2005, 05:29 PM
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I might dig out some of my crappy short stories
to see if my lack of talent is evident to everybody else.
Or I would offer my critique sans the usual exorbitant fee.
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10-27-2005, 05:40 PM
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I sent Outlier a story I had recently "finished" and he gave me some great insight and criticism on it. This is sort of what is spurring my thoughts on this.
I think there are enough people on here who are serious writers, who would not only give the criticism but provide their own works to be reviewed. I would be reluctant to expose myself and my writing so openly to the masses (even the CougarGuard masses), but to a smaller group of serious writers, I don't have the same reluctance. Plus, I think the discussion and exchange of ideas and techniques would spur me along more, and I might find more motivation to finish the many writing projects I have that remain incomplete.
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10-27-2005, 06:03 PM
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set up that group yet ... I've got some prose to be critiqued!? It's a poetic narrative for a work of art (artist's book).
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10-27-2005, 07:18 PM
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As for the voyeurs -- I think it would be *very preferable* to restrict access to the feature to only those who actively participate in the posting and critiquing. If it includes people beyond that, it's not really a workshop and, as such, a snooty market could consider a story as having been published and decline to buy it.
OTOH, if all folks are interested is having a little audience and getting some feedback, then a more-open arena might work fine. As for me and my house, though, I'm planning on selling my ----, so that'd probably preclude my participation. Which may not be much of a loss. o
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10-27-2005, 07:25 PM
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have i mentioned that i was an english graduate student at utah state university?
that i was a fellow and have recently been lost my fellowship and am no longer a graduate student? i think i can help anyone with any short story they have, and have the time and generally am willing to read and critique anything.... im willing to participate.... |
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10-27-2005, 08:57 PM
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10-27-2005, 11:44 PM
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Ever heard of: "Every editor for every worthwhile short story market considers publishing a story to any public website 'publication'. Unless you're John Updike, and even he doesn't get free passes most of the time, no editor of any worthwhile short story market will buy anything other than 'first publication rights', wherefore if you put your story up on a website, it's published, therefore editors won't buy it since they won't get first publication rights." Unless you're trying to get published in your brother's 100-circ LDS kitsch-fic rag, owning the copyright ain't gonna help you if you've already published it to a website. Don't question someone unless you know what you're talking about. Thanks. o
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10-28-2005, 02:24 AM
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Dude, I don't care what *your* opinion is, what matters are the opinions of editors of paying markets. If you put a story on a website and it's viewable by the public, then editors will consider that work *published* and not be willing to buy it. Therefore, if MW puts up a writers' group area, then it should be an area restricted to participants. o PS, Sorry about deleting all the old quotes, we had a cool nested thing going there and I screwed it up.
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10-28-2005, 02:33 AM
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by the sound of this thread, one might get the mistaken idea that there is actually money to be made by being a writer. LOL.
Outside of JK Rowling that is. |
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