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Old 10-17-2007, 02:09 PM   #1
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I'm bothered by our support for the war in Iraq but not enough that we want our sons to join the military. I've been in my current ward for sixteen years and not one kid during this time has entered the military. I realize missions play a big part in this but our words and actions don't really match up.
I attend two wards. Both have multiple members of the military who have served in Iraq and Afganistan including the newly called bishop of one of the wards.
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I attend two wards. Both have multiple members of the military who have served in Iraq and Afganistan including the newly called bishop of one of the wards.
Is the Bishop still in the military? I imagine it would be hard on a ward for the Bishop to be gone for a couple of years during his tenure.
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:22 PM   #3
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Is the Bishop still in the military? I imagine it would be hard on a ward for the Bishop to be gone for a couple of years during his tenure.
We've had members of the military in our ward, and have a current lad in Afghanistan. We also have a military base in town, but to single LDS out for not serving may be silly. IMHO, it's more of a class item than a cultural item. For most upper middle classes, the military is not the first choice, unless family traditions dictate otherwise.
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Utah is 48th in enlistment.

Utah is 12th in terms of median income, btw.

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Old 10-18-2007, 02:07 PM   #5
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Is the Bishop still in the military? I imagine it would be hard on a ward for the Bishop to be gone for a couple of years during his tenure.
I think he's in the reserves. He has returned from Iraq, so I suspect he won't be going back anytime soon.
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:23 PM   #6
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My ward has 2 FT mnisionaries and one YW and one YM that have entered the armed forces within the last year or two.

WHen we were first married, my wife and I came THIS close to entering the Peace Corps (and I had already served a FT mission) but we were actually discouraged by the Corps itself becasue they told us that they didn't like to send couples to the same place unless one fo them had a hard science or practical skill of some sort to share. We were both liberal arts types that were both likley going to be teaching English and they didn't really want us as a couple, so we moved on.
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Impressed that so many of your kids are serving in the military. I don't know a single person in my parts.
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:18 PM   #8
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My ward has 2 FT mnisionaries and one YW and one YM that have entered the armed forces within the last year or two.

WHen we were first married, my wife and I came THIS close to entering the Peace Corps (and I had already served a FT mission) but we were actually discouraged by the Corps itself becasue they told us that they didn't like to send couples to the same place unless one fo them had a hard science or practical skill of some sort to share. We were both liberal arts types that were both likley going to be teaching English and they didn't really want us as a couple, so we moved on.
you guys could have been like ted and elaine in the movie "airplane". you could have tought the male natives basketball, and your wife could have had tupperware parties with the females.
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you guys could have been like ted and elaine in the movie "airplane". you could have tought the male natives basketball, and your wife could have had tupperware parties with the females.
I think that was exactly what they were trying to avoid. In a way, it was a sort of subtle sexism. The recruiter we met with (a woman in Berkeley, CA) kept talking about how it would be fine if my wife could teach English and I could teach engineering or design water systems, or design building foundations and some such. In all the scenarios and possible locations she always pointed out that my wife could easiyl teach English but i was the loser for not haveng a hard science or practical skill background. We met several times and they kept suggesting we go to different locations (as in differnet countries). We were resistant, being married and all.
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