Call your shot. Hendo or Silva?

[Taq Man]

The critics are all picking Silva. They say he has better striking and will negate Hendo's ground game with his BJJ.

Hendo is my favorite fighter so I am perhaps biased but I think he wins and I don't think he will struggle all that much in doing it. Henderson has never been knocked out. Big Nog couldn't do it, Wanderlei couldn't do it. Rampage couldn't do it. I think all 3 of those guys hit harder than Spider Silva. Great wrestling with sub defense beats black belt jiu jitsu. Also if Big Nog couldn't sub him in their first fight and it took him into the 3rd round of their second fight to sub him a smaller less talented Silva will not be able to do it. Hendo has good sub defense. He is naturally bigger, stronger, more seasoned, fought better competition. I like Hollywood Dan Henderson in this one.

I think Hendo wins this one via TKO in the third.

[cougjunkie]

Originally Posted by Taq Man

The critics are all picking Silva. They say he has better striking and will negate Hendo's ground game with his BJJ.

Hendo is my favorite fighter so I am perhaps biased but I think he wins and I don't think he will struggle all that much in doing it. Henderson has never been knocked out. Big Nog couldn't do it, Wanderlei couldn't do it. Rampage couldn't do it. I think all 3 of those guys hit harder than Spider Silva. Great wrestling with sub defense beats black belt jiu jitsu. Also if Big Nog couldn't sub him in their first fight and it took him into the 3rd round of their second fight to sub him a smaller less talented Silva will not be able to do it. Hendo has good sub defense. He is naturally bigger, stronger, more seasoned, fought better competition. I like Hollywood Dan Henderson in this one.

I think Hendo wins this one via TKO in the third.

I dont think it goes 3 rounds, and I think Silva wins with strikes in round 1. Anderson is a man on a mission right now, and if Dan Henderson is as dumb as he is talking, Anderson will kill him. Henderson is saying that he thinks his clinch is better than Silvas and he has no problem clinching with Anderson. If that is the case he will be done in a hurry.

[Taq Man]

Originally Posted by cougjunkie

I dont think it goes 3 rounds, and I think Silva wins with strikes in round 1. Anderson is a man on a mission right now, and if Dan Henderson is as dumb as he is talking, Anderson will kill him. Henderson is saying that he thinks his clinch is better than Silvas and he has no problem clinching with Anderson. If that is the case he will be done in a hurry.

Who has he fought? Nobody. Rich Franklin got exposed. This is a top heavy division with Silva and .........................a bunch of nobodies. Silva has looked good but the competition has been subpar. Hendo all the way.

[SipiTau]

Originally Posted by Taq Man

Great wrestling with sub defense beats black belt jiu jitsu.

I think you need to ask Lesnar about that one...lol!!

I like both fighters, but I think Silva takes this one; he knows how to finish fights. Does he fight in a weak division? I think he does, but you can't discount the fact that he didn't fall victim to the upsets that were the norm in '07.

[Taq Man]

Originally Posted by SipiTau

I think you need to ask Lesnar about that one...lol!!

I like both fighters, but I think Silva takes this one; he knows how to finish fights. Does he fight in a weak division? I think he does, but you can't discount the fact that he didn't fall victim to the upsets that were the norm in '07.

Ummm Lesnar had no submission defense training. It would be better to ask Couture, Hendo, and Rampage. All wrestlers, all with good sub defense. All kick the shit out of BJJ Blackbelts.

[SipiTau]

Originally Posted by Taq Man

Ummm Lesnar had no submission defense training. It would be better to ask Couture, Hendo, and Rampage. All wrestlers, all with good sub defense. All kick the shit out of BJJ Blackbelts.

No sub defense training.....you can't use that excuse, he's been training with Erik Paulsen for over a year on sub/bjj defense...inexperience is what cost him the fight. He looked pretty good at defending the arm bar attempts, before getting caught with the knee bar.

[SipiTau]

Originally Posted by Taq Man

Ummm Lesnar had no submission defense training. It would be better to ask Couture, Hendo, and Rampage. All wrestlers, all with good sub defense. All kick the shit out of BJJ Blackbelts.

What's to ask, they've all lost fights to bjj black belts as well. Couture got pounded by Ricco Suave, who wasn't even a black belt at the time, Hendo's been submitted by BOTH Nogueira brothers and I don't think we need to bring up Page's record against Wandy and Shogun.

BJJ is not the be all/end all in MMA, but neither is a wrestler with good sub defense. To be honest, when I usually hear a fighter is a wrestler/grappler, I'm usually thinking....BORING, better prep myself to see 3-5 rounds of lay & pray.

[Taq Man]

Originally Posted by SipiTau

What's to ask, they've all lost fights to bjj black belts as well. Couture got pounded by Ricco Suave, who wasn't even a black belt at the time, Hendo's been submitted by BOTH Nogueira brothers and I don't think we need to bring up Page's record against Wandy and Shogun.

BJJ is not the be all/end all in MMA, but neither is a wrestler with good sub defense. To be honest, when I usually hear a fighter is a wrestler/grappler, I'm usually thinking....BORING, better prep myself to see 3-5 rounds of lay & pray.

I left out Chuck Lidell, Shawn Sherk, Matt Hughes, and Tito Ortiz as well. I'm not saying it can't happen, anybody can get caught in a sub. That said, more often than not the wrestler who is experienced in defending subs will win the ground game. Its boring I agree, but its true.

Look no further than Hughes/Gracie, or Hughes/Penn for textbook examples. When the BJJ guys win its usually with strikes. Other notable bouts, Sherk/Florian, Sherk/Franca, Couture/Gonzaga, Couture/Belfort, Lidell/Babalu, Lidell/Silva.

[SipiTau]

Well, well, well.....who'd a thought Hendo would get tapped out? Silva has made the division his playground. Is there any 185'er out there who can give this guy a fight? Please don't throw Lindland's name out there; Woogie would get murdered.

[Taq Man]

Originally Posted by SipiTau

Well, well, well.....who'd a thought Hendo would get tapped out? Silva has made the division his playground. Is there any 185'er out there who can give this guy a fight? Please don't throw Lindland's name out there; Woogie would get murdered.

I'll admit I was shocked at the result. Dan dropped from 205 to fight Silva and Silva looked like the bigger fighter. I really can't think of anyone that can even come close to giving him a challenge.

Hendo might make a case for getting caught with the choke and demand a rematch but Silva seemed to be having his way with him in the 2nd round.

The only fighter I think might have a shot is St. Pierre. He cuts really hard to make 170. I think he could give Silva a pretty good test though I think Silva beats him as well.

I was skeptical of Silva before. I am now convinced. He should be #1 in the P4P rankings.