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MikeWaters · 07-10-2008, 02:19 PM

would be a disaster. For America and Israel.

I hope someone with actual brains is telling GWB this.

Think the Hezbollah attack against Israel x1000.

MikeWaters · 07-10-2008, 05:05 PM

If Iran stops exporting oil and shuts down the Strait of Hormuz, how much do you think gas will cost, for those that can find it?

People will be walking to church and riding bikes to work.

UtahDan · 07-10-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

If Iran stops exporting oil and shuts down the Strait of Hormuz, how much do you think gas will cost, for those that can find it?

People will be walking to church and riding bikes to work.

So then you are rooting for this, right?

MikeWaters · 07-10-2008, 05:16 PM

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So then you are rooting for this, right?

No. Because people will suffer in terms of affording food.

But one good thing about it would be less cars on the road, safer for cyclists.

Indy Coug · 07-10-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

If Iran stops exporting oil and shuts down the Strait of Hormuz, how much do you think gas will cost, for those that can find it?

People will be walking to church and riding bikes to work.

Do you think Iran could actually shut down the Strait of Hormuz?

MikeWaters · 07-10-2008, 05:21 PM

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Do you think Iran could actually shut down the Strait of Hormuz?

I'm not expert, but it seems to be within the realm of possibilities.

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Today, Iran has sophisticated EM-53 bottom-tethered mines, which it purchased from China in the 1990s. The EM-53 presents a serious threat to major U.S. surface vessels, since its rocket-propelled charge is capable of hitting the hull of its target at speeds in excess of 70 miles per hour. Some analysts believe it can knock out a U.S. aircraft carrier.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff has been warning about Iran's growing naval buildup in the Persian Gulf for over a decade, and in a draft presidential finding submitted to President Clinton in late February 1995, concluded that Iran already had the capability to close the Strait of Hormuz.

"I think it would be problematic for any navy to face a combination of mines, small boats, anti-ship cruise missiles, torpedoes, coastal artillery, and Silkworms," said retired Navy Commander Joseph Tenaglia, CEO of Tactical Defense Concepts, a maritime security company. "This is a credible threat."

In Tenaglia's view, "the major problem will be the mines. Naval minefields are hard to locate and to sweep," and the United States has few minesweepers. "It's going to be like running the gauntlet getting through there," he said.

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...730.shtml?s=lh

This same article talks about Iranian plans to attack Saudi production with missiles.

In one day, half the world's oil could come off the market.

SeattleUte · 07-10-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

If Iran stops exporting oil and shuts down the Strait of Hormuz, how much do you think gas will cost, for those that can find it?

People will be walking to church and riding bikes to work.

How can Iran afford to do this?

BlueK · 07-10-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

would be a disaster. For America and Israel.

I hope someone with actual brains is telling GWB this.

Think the Hezbollah attack against Israel x1000.

No one on this site supports a preemptive war against Iran...
until it actually happens and Bush's followers will fall right in line.

MikeWaters · 07-10-2008, 05:29 PM

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How can Iran afford to do this?

It's the carrot that keeps Iran alive from the Bush-warmongers.

Do you think Bush will tank the entire oil industry, and ruin his financial backers?

There will be no attack on Iran. Even if Iran is in the midst of openly building the bomb. The cost of attack is just too high. It has to be solved diplomatically.

I think to start, Israel should offer to get rid of it's own nuclear program in exchange.

UtahDan · 07-10-2008, 05:40 PM

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No one on this site supports a preemptive war against Iran...
until it actually happens and Bush's followers will fall right in line.

The truth is that no one wants Iran to have a nuke. Even less do people want to do what it would take to prevent it. Even the only two countries in the world that have the will to use force don't have the will to do this.

Time will tell whether that is shortsighted.

07-10-2008, 02:19 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	A preemptive war against Iran would be a disaster. For America and Israel. I hope someone with actual brains is telling GWB this. Think the Hezbollah attack against Israel x1000.

07-10-2008, 05:05 PM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	If Iran stops exporting oil and shuts down the Strait of Hormuz, how much do you think gas will cost, for those that can find it? People will be walking to church and riding bikes to work.