Who can figure out President Packer?

[Archaea]

He gives some doozies.

The talk he gave years ago about the need to glorify awful poetry, the need not to tell negative stories and the recent silly song. What is his angle?

Elder Bednar's story glorifying the HC is also weird. I understand his point but still felt uneasy about it.

[All-American]

Originally Posted by Archaea

He gives some doozies.

The talk he gave years ago about the need to glorify awful poetry, the need not to tell negative stories and the recent silly song. What is his angle?

Elder Bednar's story glorifying the HC is also weird. I understand his point but still felt uneasy about it.

Well, the Lord's tolerating him enough to leave him in. I'll just learn what I can from the guy.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by All-American

Well, the Lord's tolerating him enough to leave him in. I'll just learn what I can from the guy.

Well his destiny is better than mine, but I just don't get his angle, that is all. He shows disdain for learning, he once heralded a really dumb poem, and he seems to be very hardlined. Balance within in the Quorum is necessary, and we need the hellfire and damnation types to go along with the charity and compassion types. Even the Quorum needs strict administrators. I can also describe a few personal instances but will leave that alone for now.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by All-American

Well, the Lord's tolerating him enough to leave him in. I'll just learn what I can from the guy.

My guess is you guys are being tolerated a hell of a lot more than a special witness to Christ is, then again grasping the simplest of concepts is something that has always seemed to befuddle the "intellectuals" and "learned". You guys certainly have a hell of a lot more to learn from him than the other way around. Galling as that is to Archaea.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

My guess is you guys are being tolerated a hell of a lot more than a special witness to Christ is, then again grasping the simplest of concepts is something that has always seemed to befuddle the "intellectuals" and "learned". You guys certainly have a hell of a lot more to learn from him than the other way around. Galling as that is to Archaea.

Thanks, Rocky, we can always count on you to squelch any honest discussion. Thanks for stating the obvious.

You're right, everybody is perfect and we should just kill ourselves. Thanks for Jim Jones fundamentalism.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by Archaea

He gives some doozies.

The talk he gave years ago about the need to glorify awful poetry, the need not to tell negative stories and the recent silly song. What is his angle?

Elder Bednar's story glorifying the HC is also weird. I understand his point but still felt uneasy about it.

I'm sure this is is probably a Mormon myth, but I heard that he once told a group of priesthoold leaders at BYU or some place something like "we belive in grace more than we let on, but we can't tell the members that or they wouldn't keep the commandments". Something like that.

I feel that from Elder Packer. At times you see his soft side but he won't show it much. He's like the coach who rode you like hell all season like an a-hole and then at the end he hugs you and tells you he loves you and says he did it for your own good.

[TheSizzle36]

Originally Posted by jay santos

I feel that from Elder Packer. At times you see his soft side but he won't show it much. He's like the coach who rode you like hell all season like an a-hole and then at the end he hugs you and tells you he loves you and says he did it for your own good.

Does anybody else feel a little un-easy that Santos pretty much just called the Pres of the Q12 an "a-hole"?

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by TheSizzle36

Does anybody else feel a little un-easy that Santos pretty much just called the Pres of the Q12 an "a-hole"?

LOL. I meant it in the most dearest sense.

[Goatnapper'96]

Originally Posted by Archaea

He gives some doozies.

The talk he gave years ago about the need to glorify awful poetry, the need not to tell negative stories and the recent silly song. What is his angle?

Elder Bednar's story glorifying the HC is also weird. I understand his point but still felt uneasy about it.

You know after lamblasting aaron, who is very much the colloquial equivalent of an anal orifice, the reality was aaron was right. Elder Packer is one of the Lord's annointed, but I doubt I would have been singing the root-te-te-toot song. It is gay.

Elder Packer represents the conservative side of the Church. I often think that God works his own form of representative democracy. Some of you questioning intellectuals get your Talmage's or Pres. David O. McKay's, while the rank and file get their Pres. Joseph Fielding Smith and Elder Boyd K. Packers. I really have no issues with Elder Packer's opinion on Church history. I can understand where he comes from and understand his logic. I just happen to personally disagree. Ours is trully a large tent.....

I don't know how many of you have read Leonard Arrington's "Adventures of a Church Historian," but it really gives some insight into how decisions are often made by the Brethren. Namely that in a great number of issues there is often disagreement, but usually the side that "wins" is the one where its proponents are the most emotionally "fully invested" into bringing their opinions to "higher level of execution." Often out of professional courtesy those opposed will wilt in the name of unity.

I am in interested in if some of you think Elder Packer would have issues with how Tim Tebow's girlfriend dresses.......

[All-American]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

My guess is you guys are being tolerated a hell of a lot more than a special witness to Christ is, then again grasping the simplest of concepts is something that has always seemed to befuddle the "intellectuals" and "learned". You guys certainly have a hell of a lot more to learn from him than the other way around. Galling as that is to Archaea.

I was being just a touch sargonic, if you couldn't tell. I don't doubt that President Packer is higher up on the invite list than I am.