The Church on the Wrong Side of History Again

[Sleeping in EQ]

Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar

I haven't even taken a stand against Prop. 8, but after saying nice (and accurate) things about my BIL, Morris Thurston, I was informed by one mullah that I would have to choose between the Church and my BIL.

I'm thinking, I'm thinking....

CB has plenty of zealots who "look beyond the mark." They think they know what Church leaders *really* mean and feel they have license to impose their views on others.

[SeattleUte]

I've said this before. The LDS Church is on the wrong side of history because that's what it is, at a cellular level. It sprang up and grew in popularity at the juncture between the late Enlightenment and onset of the modern age. If it's not on the wrong side of history it's nothing. It's laughable that anyone should suggest, for example, that the LDS Church is not a creationist sect. Its romance with the Masons is totally understandable; the Masons represented the start of a move away from the starkness of the Enlightenment; you see this confluence in the pictures by Napoleon's artists in Egypt. Precise, but starting to get abstract at the edges and as time passes. The LDS Church even tried to give new life to an Old Testament outlook of prophets, visions and miracles. the LDS Church grew as part of the Romantic age. Leo Tolstoy admired Joseph Smith because they shared the same nostalgia for belief, for miracles. This is what Harold Bloom is saying in noah's signature, if you decipher the Bloomspeak. It's why so many intellectual or disaffected Mormons are so drawn to postmodernism, the contemporary iteration of Romanticism.

If the LDS Church stops being on the wrong side of history, on that day it will cease to exist. That's what it is, why its followers love it. They don't want to be on the right side of history.

Last time I said this my friend LA Ute told me I'm making a fool of myself here. So if I'm doing that somebody plase confirm and I'll try to stop.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

CB has plenty of zealots who "look beyond the mark." They think they know what Church leaders *really* mean and feel they have license to impose their views on others.

and this never happens with the "intellectuals."

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

and this never happens with the "intellectuals."

Hey, when are you going to post that LSAT score that you hinted about? That's pretty cool that you are really an intellectual masquerading as a dumbass. (quite convincingly, I might add)

[Sleeping in EQ]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

and this never happens with the "intellectuals."

I don't try to impose my views on anyone. CB just happens to have some true pieces of work when it comes to the pharasaic approach to Mormonism.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Hey, when are you going to post that LSAT score that you hinted about? That's pretty cool that you are really an intellectual masquerading as a dumbass. (quite convincingly, I might add)

You deserve a lot more credit than I do cause personally I think it's a greater feat to be a dumbass masquerading as an intellectual.

I bow to your greatness.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

You deserve a lot more credit than I do cause personally I think it's a greater feat to be a dumbass masquerading as an intellectual.

I bow to your greatness.

Well done.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

I don't try to impose my views on anyone. CB just happens to have some true pieces of work when it comes to the pharasaic approach to Mormonism.

I don't disagree.

I think both sides of the extreme, as evidenced on CB and CG have many of their own works of art.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by creekster

Two comments. First, the church has not donated. Instead, the 19M is from members. My guess is the 12 don't donate because they do not want to try to draw the distinction between themselves and the church in the press. Note, I said that is a guess.

I'm guessing you're right. Kind of amusing, though, to see who's willing to point the finger at their leadership and yell "hypocrite!"

[Goatnapper'96]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

I've said this before. The LDS Church is on the wrong side of history because that's what it is, at a cellular level. It sprang up and grew in popularity at the juncture between the late Enlightenment and onset of the modern age. If it's not on the wrong side of history it's nothing. It's laughable that anyone should suggest, for example, that the LDS Church is not a creationist sect. Its romance with the Masons is totally understandable; the Masons represented the start of a move away from the starkness of the Enlightenment; you see this confluence in the pictures by Napoleon's artists in Egypt. Precise, but starting to get abstract at the edges and as time passes. The LDS Church even tried to give new life to an Old Testament outlook of prophets, visions and miracles. the LDS Church grew as part of the Romantic age. Leo Tolstoy admired Joseph Smith because they shared the same nostalgia for belief, for miracles. This is what Harold Bloom is saying in noah's signature, if you decipher the Bloomspeak. It's why so many intellectual or disaffected Mormons are so drawn to postmodernism, the contemporary iteration of Romanticism.

If the LDS Church stops being on the wrong side of history, on that day it will cease to exist. That's what it is, why its followers love it. They don't want to be on the right side of history.

Last time I said this my friend LA Ute told me I'm making a fool of myself here. So if I'm doing that somebody plase confirm and I'll try to stop.

I don't think you make a fool of yourself, in fact I might be alone but I find myself being persuaded by your insight. Well maybe not.

I still think you are an asshole, however. You are drawn to postmoderinism, Non-Sequitar is drawn to scantilly clad women with oscillating man made hooters. I think disaffected mormons are quite a diverse group, reflective of the overall religion IMO.

For the record I much rather hang out with Non"bown-bicha-bown-bown"Sequitar.