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Old 10-27-2008, 05:28 PM   #21
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Ideally it starts with the families, but should be reenforced within the faith community but subtle and direct messages.

Proper "intimacy" starts with intimacy of feelings between the membership of a couple. And if teens see it modeled by parents, it would be helpful.

And then there should be no embarrassment discussing it, even if discussions are reserved for a rare few. Many within our culture don't know where to get help, and it's sad, very sad.

Many marriages could be saved if this issue were addressed more delicately but effectively. It's obviously not the only issue, but it's a major issue.
what is it you are saying is the major issue? lack of sex in marriages?

Is that what you all are suggesting would be the topic in RS?
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Old 10-27-2008, 05:28 PM   #22
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So you think that would overcome the deep rooted set point you originally posted about?

After all the comments I have read from this group over time on this and simialr topics I find it amusing that you are so quick to be critical of this effort. I applaud the effort and imagine it cannot lead to harm and may lead to benefits. Why not?
Sorry, I should have left out my cynical comment above. I did give some hope that if they emphasized that professional help is often needed, this could be a useful discussion. They're doing this with the porn problem, so I should be more hopeful.
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Old 10-27-2008, 05:29 PM   #23
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And how do you start this effort? This is exactly what they are doing here. THe church can't win for losing around here.
No I applaud any effort, any effort but much more needs to be done. And speakers on this sensitive subject need more education and counseling so as to not give bad advice or to deliver it badly.
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And how do you start this effort? This is exactly what they are doing here. THe church can't win for losing around here.
That's a good point. Hopefully, they're at least planting seeds for the next generation.
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Old 10-27-2008, 05:31 PM   #25
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Just come right out and say it...She wants to do you.
I guess I forgot to mention...in the midst of the conversation, I did her in a patient room.

Details, details....
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Old 10-27-2008, 05:33 PM   #26
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what is it you are saying is the major issue? lack of sex in marriages?

Is that what you all are suggesting would be the topic in RS?
In our culture, sexuality is repressed, not celebrated, which leads to sexual dissatisfaction by both partners, causing many dysfunctions. And while men have their dysfunctions manifest in ways which are easily identified, women, a portion of them, will have their dysfunctionality manifest in ways which are more subtle and less addressed.

Men are told to curb their appetites. And I know it's a gross overgeneralization, but I did ask a counselor once, what percentage of your practice involves male and female frigidity in marriage. Answer a lot. What percentage of it is male and what percentage is female? Answer, only one man in 25 years, the rest, 1000s, female. These were almost exclusively LDS.

So obviously our marriage relationships are not fulfilling a significant purpose, attributable in no small part to the difficult to experience meaningful intimacy in our culture.
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Old 10-27-2008, 05:39 PM   #27
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I guess I forgot to mention...in the midst of the conversation, I did her in a patient room.

Details, details....
I don't know any adulterous doctors. Maybe you know a different DDD.
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I don't know any adulterous doctors.
Yes you do. We all are. Haven't you ever seen ER, Gray's Anatomy, Scrubs?




Because sarcasm doesn't always come through on here, and my wife occasionally reads the board, for the record, I did NOT do her. Nor did I have any desire to (do her). Nor her for me (to do her). No doing or being done occurred. Or ever would occur.
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Yes you do. We all are. Haven't you ever seen ER, Gray's Anatomy, Scrubs?




Because sarcasm doesn't always come through on here, and my wife occasionally reads the board, for the record, I did NOT do her. Nor did I have any desire to (do her). Nor her for me (to do her). No doing or being done occurred. Or ever would occur.
So you're not Dr. McDreamie stimulating the unstimulated? How unfortunate for your patients.
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Yes you do. We all are. Haven't you ever seen ER, Gray's Anatomy, Scrubs?




Because sarcasm doesn't always come through on here, and my wife occasionally reads the board, for the record, I did NOT do her. Nor did I have any desire to (do her). Nor her for me (to do her). No doing or being done occurred. Or ever would occur.
being honest here, but I have never seen an entire episode of any of those shows. I say "entire" because several years back, I did see part of an ER episode at someone's house.

I will throw in the west wing also....never saw once episode.
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