Prop 8 stuff heating up

[SoCalCoug]

In priesthood opening exercises today, they asked for a show of hands from the priesthood (they also did it in the Relief Society) from all those who would commit to spend a Saturday morning going door-to-door in support of Prop 8. The ward clerk took a count.

I didn't raise my hand.

After the meeting, my father-in-law (who is in our ward - in fact, he was sitting next to me in priesthood opening exercises) said that one particular high priest in the ward, who my in-laws really dislike intensely - both he and his wife, in fact - commented that he was disturbed that not all the hands went up, and he questioned the testimony of anyone who didn't raise their hand.

My testimony's just fine, by the way.

The next 3-4 months are going to be a little interesting.

[Gidget]

Originally Posted by SoCalCoug

In priesthood opening exercises today, they asked for a show of hands from the priesthood (they also did it in the Relief Society) from all those who would commit to spend a Saturday morning going door-to-door in support of Prop 8. The ward clerk took a count.

I didn't raise my hand.

After the meeting, my father-in-law (who is in our ward - in fact, he was sitting next to me in priesthood opening exercises) said that one particular high priest in the ward, who my in-laws really dislike intensely - both he and his wife, in fact - commented that he was disturbed that not all the hands went up, and he questioned the testimony of anyone who didn't raise their hand.

My testimony's just fine, by the way.

The next 3-4 months are going to be a little interesting.

Questioning testimonies? Wow, What an idiot. I don't think I would do that anyway, but I really wouldn't just to piss off that guy.

[scottie]

Originally Posted by SoCalCoug

In priesthood opening exercises today, they asked for a show of hands from the priesthood (they also did it in the Relief Society) from all those who would commit to spend a Saturday morning going door-to-door in support of Prop 8. The ward clerk took a count.

I didn't raise my hand.
...

SoCalCoug, what percentage raised their hand?

[Sleeping in EQ]

Originally Posted by SoCalCoug

In priesthood opening exercises today, they asked for a show of hands from the priesthood (they also did it in the Relief Society) from all those who would commit to spend a Saturday morning going door-to-door in support of Prop 8. The ward clerk took a count.

I didn't raise my hand.

After the meeting, my father-in-law (who is in our ward - in fact, he was sitting next to me in priesthood opening exercises) said that one particular high priest in the ward, who my in-laws really dislike intensely - both he and his wife, in fact - commented that he was disturbed that not all the hands went up, and he questioned the testimony of anyone who didn't raise their hand.

My testimony's just fine, by the way.

The next 3-4 months are going to be a little interesting.

Hang in there, SoCal. Some of the zealots are just primed to go on a rampage.

[SeattleUte]

Love it. I'm loving this.

[SoCalCoug]

Originally Posted by scottie

SoCalCoug, what percentage raised their hand?

The mullah in question mentioned that about 75% raised their hands. I wasn't really looking around, but it looked like a large majority.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by SoCalCoug

In priesthood opening exercises today, they asked for a show of hands from the priesthood (they also did it in the Relief Society) from all those who would commit to spend a Saturday morning going door-to-door in support of Prop 8. The ward clerk took a count.

I didn't raise my hand.

After the meeting, my father-in-law (who is in our ward - in fact, he was sitting next to me in priesthood opening exercises) said that one particular high priest in the ward, who my in-laws really dislike intensely - both he and his wife, in fact - commented that he was disturbed that not all the hands went up, and he questioned the testimony of anyone who didn't raise their hand.

My testimony's just fine, by the way.

The next 3-4 months are going to be a little interesting.

I am really uncomfortable with the public nature of all of this. I was bothered by the FP letter a while back asking for us to write to our congressman regarding our thoughts on a gay marriage amendment, but at least it was private. Now, people are asking me publicly (in HP Group meetings, Gospel Doctrine, etc.) if I am on board. I think many already know the answer, but given my calling it is very challenging to answer in a capacity separate from my church position. If things keep going like this, I may need to consider asking for a release (which I really don't want to do).

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I am really uncomfortable with the public nature of all of this. I was bothered by the FP letter a while back asking for us to write to our congressman regarding our thoughts on a gay marriage amendment, but at least it was private. Now, people are asking me publicly (in HP Group meetings, Gospel Doctrine, etc.) if I am on board. I think many already know the answer, but given my calling it is very challenging to answer in a capacity separate from my church position. If things keep going like this, I may need to consider asking for a release (which I really don't want to do).

You can't say all this and not mention what calling it is you have.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Love it. I'm loving this.

Why? I honestly don't get it. The church brings a lot of people a lot of happiness. It doesn't bring you happiness anymore, and I get that. What I don't understand is why you would rejoice that other people are having a difficult time with an institution that forms a core part of their identity and belief system. Of what value is it to you to wish for them to be more unhappy with the church? I certainly don't sit at home feeling thrilled when another scandal breaks in the Catholic church, or when I read an article about the struggle of the Jews in Israel.

To me, it reeks of desperation. Desperation for you to feel vindicated that you made the right decision in leaving the church. You won't find vindication in the areas where you are looking, SU.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I am really uncomfortable with the public nature of all of this. I was bothered by the FP letter a while back asking for us to write to our congressman regarding our thoughts on a gay marriage amendment, but at least it was private. Now, people are asking me publicly (in HP Group meetings, Gospel Doctrine, etc.) if I am on board. I think many already know the answer, but given my calling it is very challenging to answer in a capacity separate from my church position. If things keep going like this, I may need to consider asking for a release (which I really don't want to do).

The Church appears to be making a PR and tactical mistake. Whether Prop 8 passes, I have no idea.

And culturally to shame some into obliging may not be wise, but my guess is it will blow over within a few months after passage or rejection. We seem to make mountains out of molehills here.

Of course, I'm sitting in a neighboring state with no investment either way.