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Old 02-26-2009, 04:02 PM   #31
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You are really stretching, Tex.

Sure, the elections of Obama and Bush were quite different. Bush effectively won the election through the courts, Obama won a clear mandate. You then want to suggest that a parallel in their respective popularity so soon into Obama's respective presidency shows that Obama has really fallen. This is just silly.

What you fail to note are the other circumstances the two men faced upon taking office. Obama was faced with the threat of economic collapse, war being fought in two nations concurrently, the largest loss of jobs in over two decades, etc. Perhaps the rosy circumstances you paint for Obama's entrance into the presidency are... overstated?

That and the fact that almost all other opinion polls seem to indicate much higher support right now for Obama suggest that, once again, you don't have a point.
remind me again why we are in this economic mess? what brought us here? Bush or the Dem controlled congress the previous two years. Who writes the checks? The white house or congress?
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Old 02-26-2009, 04:17 PM   #32
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Inheriting the worst economic crisis in 70+ years from his predecessor, along with a sprinkle of cheap populist politics on the part of Rush Limbaugh & the GOP, have nothing to do with the President's ratings.

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As for narratives, Tex, can you give us your best guess that parallels Bush's rise to the peak of his presidency in 9 months, post 9-11, with nearly the whole world behind him & US, followed by the long slide based on an enormous catalog of idiotic statements and missteps?
No excuses. You didn't cut Bush any slack after 9/11 which he inherited from Clinton. Deal with your own mess created largely by both parties.
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Old 02-26-2009, 06:19 PM   #33
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remind me again why we are in this economic mess? what brought us here? Bush or the Dem controlled congress the previous two years. Who writes the checks? The white house or congress?
Are you for real, exie? I don't think you have a clue about how the government actually runs. Are you under the impression that Congress just writes checks and the executive can't do anything about it? Really? Are you under the impression that the economic mess was caused by the last 2 years of having Democrats control the House and the Senate?

You amuse me, exie. Always good for a laugh.
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Old 03-10-2009, 03:26 PM   #34
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Rasmussen reports Obama has been holding at 56% for 4 days.

The difference between "strongly approve" and "strongly disapprove" has narrowed to +6 from +28, after inauguration.



Also, in the wake of the "who's leading Republicans" nonsense, 68% of Republicans see their party as leaderless. Only 2% identify Rush Limbaugh as their leader.
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Old 03-10-2009, 03:43 PM   #35
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Rasmussen reports Obama has been holding at 56% for 4 days.

The difference between "strongly approve" and "strongly disapprove" has narrowed to +6 from +28, after inauguration.



Also, in the wake of the "who's leading Republicans" nonsense, 68% of Republicans see their party as leaderless. Only 2% identify Rush Limbaugh as their leader.
Only a 3% drop, when dealing with the largest financial crisis since the great depression? That is remarkable. Well done, Mr. President.

At least you are coming around to the notion that it is preferrable that your party be leaderless as opposed to being run by Limbaugh. If only the 2% surveyed didn't include Michael Steele and the rest of the so-called "leadership" of your leaderless and rudderless party.
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Only a 3% drop, when dealing with the largest financial crisis since the great depression? That is remarkable. Well done, Mr. President.
Yeah, you just go ahead and ignore the 150% increase in "strongly disapprove" in only 6 weeks' time.
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Old 03-10-2009, 04:14 PM   #37
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Yeah, you just go ahead and ignore the 150% increase in "strongly disapprove" in only 6 weeks' time.
What's remarkable isn't that the "strongly disapprove" number is where it is, but that it ever was where it was originally.
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What's remarkable isn't that the "strongly disapprove" number is where it is, but that it ever was where it was originally.
How can you strongly disapprove of a president's performance before they have even taken office? I'm guessing the original starting point was the disappointment over his bungled oath of office.
Regardless, the trend of significance isn't the strongly approves, it's the other end of the spectrum.

Given the alarming levels of pseudo-religious fervor that accompanied Obama into office, I would fully expect the strongly approves would remain rock steady for a long period of time, regardless of actual performance.
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How can you strongly disapprove of a president's performance before they have even taken office? I'm guessing the original starting point was the disappointment over his bungled oath of office.
Regardless, the trend of significance isn't the strongly approves, it's the other end of the spectrum.

Given the alarming levels of pseudo-religious fervor that accompanied Obama into office, I would fully expect the strongly approves would remain rock steady for a long period of time, regardless of actual performance.
Really? You did note, didn't you, that Obama's "strongly approve" and "strongly disapprove" numbers didn't start at zero on day one, right? Do you think all public opinion for approval/disapproval starts at a baseline of zero upon any politician taking office? Did Obama just have such a remarkable first few minutes that his "strongly approve" numbers immediately jumped over 50 points?

Amusing.
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Really? You did note, didn't you, that Obama's "strongly approve" and "strongly disapprove" numbers didn't start at zero on day one, right? Do you think all public opinion for approval/disapproval starts at a baseline of zero upon any politician taking office? Did Obama just have such a remarkable first few minutes that his "strongly approve" numbers immediately jumped over 50 points?

Amusing.
I should have known since you don't even understand basic rounding rules that you would be incapable of understanding the data Tex posted.
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