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Old 11-30-2016, 08:52 PM   #11
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Option football? No, thank you. It's not a given that playing that way would lead to winning at BYU. The game has changed. It hasn't worked for a very long time at any school other than Navy or Air Force. Hasn't even worked at Army. Former Navy coaches have tried it at other schools with little success. Better for him to stay where he's at and take the pay raise. Better for BYU to go a different direction.
BYU might be a school that could make it work, but there would be bumps in the road that BYU's fanbase might not tolerate.
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Option football? No, thank you. It's not a given that playing that way would lead to winning at BYU. The game has changed. It hasn't worked for a very long time at any school other than Navy or Air Force. Hasn't even worked at Army. Former Navy coaches have tried it at other schools with little success. Better for him to stay where he's at and take the pay raise. Better for BYU to go a different direction.
That guy is such a stud he could modify his game as needed. He's a super coach like Meyer; what he's done at Navy is astounding. If Whit left I would love him at Utah; in fact I'd advocate for him in any way I could. He's better than Texas's new coach; he's accomplished much more. I'm really glad BYU got Sitaki instead.
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That guy is such a stud he could modify his game as needed. He's a super coach like Meyer; what he's done at Navy is astounding. If Whit left I would love him at Utah; in fact I'd advocate for him in any way I could. He's better than Texas's new coach; he's accomplished much more. I'm really glad BYU got Sitaki instead.
8-4 and #32 in the sagarin this year is better than what you thought Sitake would do in his first year. If we played a QB who could throw even moderately well it could have been better than that.
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8-4 and #32 in the sagarin this year is better than what you thought Sitake would do in his first year. If we played a QB who could throw even moderately well it could have been better than that.
Yes, BYU has been better than I expected. But this is still Bronco's team. BYU players are unusually mature (they're older) and therefore disciplined, so I expect Bronco's good works to stick for a while. It's not unusual for a first year coach to have his best year that first year, e.g., Crowton. Let's what happens long term.

Regardless, Navy's coach would have been a home run hire. Waters, would BYU pay him less than Navy does? I think he didn't want to have BYU fans telling him to pass.
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for sure it would have been a pay cut for him to come to BYU. And for all his assistants.
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BYU might be a school that could make it work, but there would be bumps in the road that BYU's fanbase might not tolerate.
With missions it would take at least five years to make it work here. You're right no one would tolerate that, least of all the fans who post on boards like this. Maybe the super casual fans who don't really care what happens.
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With missions it would take at least five years to make it work here. You're right no one would tolerate that, least of all the fans who post on boards like this. Maybe the super casual fans who don't really care what happens.
Like the Board of Trustees.
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Like the Board of Trustees.
Ken N. was never offered. Let's not be ridiculous. The only thing that remotely made him a fit at BYU was his religion. Better to let him continue being who he is at Navy. It's possible for a really good coach not to be a good fit at a particular school. BYU recruiting to fit the triple option would be stupid and would waste even more LDS talent than we were under Bronco who thought the talent has to recruit BYU first or he wasn't even going to try. The system being put in place now is a great fit for what we can recruit well. We just happened to have the wrong type of QB for it this year.
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Ken N. was never offered. Let's not be ridiculous. The only thing that remotely made him a fit at BYU was his religion. Better to let him continue being who he is at Navy. It's possible for a really good coach not to be a good fit at a particular school. BYU recruiting to fit the triple option would be stupid and would waste even more LDS talent than we were under Bronco who thought the talent has to recruit BYU first or he wasn't even going to try. The system being put in place now is a great fit for what we can recruit well. We just happened to have the wrong type of QB for it this year.
And a crappy defensive line.

And no offensive line.

And no receivers. And Cahoon, who can't coach.
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And a crappy defensive line.

And no offensive line.

And no receivers. And Cahoon, who can't coach.
Receivers irrelevant this year because Hill can't pass. They wouldn't have looked that bad with a QB who isn't an awful passer. Hill also made the line look worse than it was. No, I'm not a fan of running QB's who are terrible passers.
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