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Old 01-17-2008, 08:20 PM   #61
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BYU has 1 player invited to the combine. Does USC have more?
Depends, mike. This year, or overall?
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:20 PM   #62
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btw, Univ. of Texas, they really are thugs.

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Old 01-17-2008, 08:21 PM   #63
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I agree with DDD, except Sanchez did sexually assault a woman (allegedley) I believe he also had some ecstacy pills in his apartment as well.
Sanchez also played at Mission Viejo which is a sin.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:21 PM   #64
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it probably just means you are an ugly pasty-white splotchy red-head whom women (and men) of color don't find attractive. that would be my first assumption, and not that you are racist.
But I could do a sub 11 hunerd, so I had options CRACKA!
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:21 PM   #65
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I agree with DDD, except Sanchez did sexually assault a woman (allegedley) I believe he also had some ecstacy pills in his apartment as well.
She later recanted. They just hit it.

Even if he did, that doesnt support the notion that the behavior is any worse than at BYU, does it? I dont get BDB's claims.

her silence now speaks volumes.
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Is it one of the great tragedies of my life that I was accepted to SoCal (unsolicited, btw), and turned them down?
It may be; I enjoyed my time at SC.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:23 PM   #67
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I never dated anyone who wasn't white, does that make me a racist?
No, but being from Simi Valley does.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:23 PM   #68
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BDB are you racist? Just curious because the only difference between BYU and USC besides the overwhelming amount of talent is that they have a lot more players that are darker skinned. Considering your previous posts about only dating RMs, and how quickly you are to judge people (oh wait you said you dont judge people, I guess thugs is not judging) anyways it wouldnt surprised me if you were racist.

Have you ever dated someone that wasnt white?
I have been on a date with a black guy once. He was the size of five of me and he was, well...sort of aggressive, so I didn't dare go out with him on a second date.

I wouldn't describe myself as a racist. However, to be entirely honest, I wouldn't say that I'm entirely void of racism either. Probably not the races that you're thinking though. I don't believe in treating people any different based on race, but I'd be lying if I said that I don't kind of struggle to avoid some stereotypes that are associated with certain races.

Now you can all think I'm a bad person, but I'm not perfect, never claimed to be, and at least I own the fault on my part. I'm a work in progress.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:24 PM   #69
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No. But more than at BYU.

Once you bust out the "let's look at it as a ratio" analysis, you are grasping at straws.

Why not this stat, which is equally telling: how many LDS players make it to the NFL from BYU and from USC, as a ratio of LDS players on the roster? I would say that BYU, as a ratio, does a horrible job of pushing its players along to the NFL. But SC, well, Havili will make it for sure. That makes their ratio pretty high!
I know you lawyers suffer when it comes to logic, but try to reason with me.

A top 200 recruit at BYU is special. You start at a very early age. You get special attention from coaches. You have to go out of your way to be a bust. You're a three year starter and you go to NFL combine. At USC, all 85 scholarship guys are top 200 recruits. Many never become starters and get churned.

So, as a ratio of top 200 recruits, how many go to the combine is important. % of LDS is not even close to being relevant.
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The former cougars were all acquitted.
never made the arguement that USC was => BYU in the Fine Young Man quotient.

In fact I seperated the service academies and BYU from the rest of d1 football because I think that they are higher in the Fine Young Man quotient than the rest of college football.
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