The "Dream Mine"

[SoonerCoug]

Anyone else ever heard of this? I guess some people are "keeping the dream alive."

In 19th century Utah County, a man had a vision of a Nephite mine where he saw layers of earth and ancient treasures that would save the Church during difficult times. The structure is visible from many miles away in south Utah County. Of course, nothing was every found in "The Dream Mine." But it seems that some people are still optimistic.

Here are some links on the topic. I think it's sort of an interesting/crazy situation. I also think it says something about the environment of 19th century Mormonism, where visions were common and maybe even expected for the average member of the Church.

http://historytogo.utah.gov/utah_cha...dreammine.html

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Dream-Mine/

Photo: http://www.utahlegends.com/wp-images..._mine/mill.jpg

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by SoonerCoug

Anyone else ever heard of this? I guess some people are "keeping the dream alive."

In 19th century Utah County, a man had a vision of a Nephite mine where he saw layers of earth and ancient treasures that would save the Church during difficult times. The structure is visible from many miles away in south Utah County. Of course, nothing was every found in "The Dream Mine." But it seems that some people are still optimistic.

Here are some links on the topic. I think it's sort of an interesting/crazy situation. I also think it says something about the environment of 19th century Mormonism, where visions were common and maybe even expected for the average member of the Church.

http://historytogo.utah.gov/utah_cha...dreammine.html

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Dream-Mine/

Photo: http://www.utahlegends.com/wp-images..._mine/mill.jpg

Are you sure he didn't see Lavell Edwards Stadium?

[SoonerCoug]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Are you sure he didn't see Lavell Edwards Stadium?

Actually, I was thinking that it sort of resembles the Laie Temple.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by SoonerCoug

Actually, I was thinking that it sort of resembles the Laie Temple.

But with scrub oak instead of palm trees?

[Surfah]

Weird I had never even heard of this before. Can you visit it?

[Archaea]

http://www.sunstoneonline.com/index.asp

Older back issues are free, and there is some good stuff there.

[fusnik11]

Originally Posted by SoonerCoug

I think it's sort of an interesting/crazy situation. I also think it says something about the environment of 19th century Mormonism, where visions were common and maybe even expected for the average member of the Church.

The Kirtland Temple dedications were a prime example of this expectation that visions were to occur. Mass accounts of angelic visitations rivaled only by events found in the Bible from the common, average member of the church.

But who knows what really happened at the dedication as some accounts claim that the visions came only after long hours of waiting and imbibing oneself in beverages not currently available to the visitation seeking, card carrying member.

[Black Diamond Bay]

Originally Posted by SoonerCoug

Anyone else ever heard of this? I guess some people are "keeping the dream alive."

In 19th century Utah County, a man had a vision of a Nephite mine where he saw layers of earth and ancient treasures that would save the Church during difficult times. The structure is visible from many miles away in south Utah County. Of course, nothing was every found in "The Dream Mine." But it seems that some people are still optimistic.

Here are some links on the topic. I think it's sort of an interesting/crazy situation. I also think it says something about the environment of 19th century Mormonism, where visions were common and maybe even expected for the average member of the Church.

http://historytogo.utah.gov/utah_cha...dreammine.html

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Dream-Mine/

Photo: http://www.utahlegends.com/wp-images..._mine/mill.jpg

Yeah, I read the book by Norman Pierce while I was at BYU. It was fascinating and a little creepy too. It was a weird book, not one that I would ever recommend to anyone else for a variety of reasons. I think I've done more than my fair share of reading from apostate literature, and such, but I've never read anything that left me feeling as unsettled as that book did. I found it to be a spiritually upsetting read. I'm not sure if that makes any sense, it's kind of hard to describe. He's very detailed about how the first few visions Bishop Koyle had, and goes into a lot of detail as to some of the instructions he received. I think the part that bothered me the most was when the "angel" gave Bishop Koyle the names of people in his community that he could approach about the mine that would believe him and help him fund the mining operation. Every person the angel listed signed right up and assisted. Alarming to know that Satan tracks us that well that he can provide a list of people that could be sucked right into the whole thing.

It's kind of sick to read the book and realize that Satan took a man's spiritual gift and used it against him. The book is a fascinating little diagram of how Satan operates, and I don't think I can adequately express how dark that is to read in a fair amount of detail. I felt spiritually, and to some extent physically, exhausted by the time I finished it. Anyway, it's a very interesting story. IMO the only reason so many people bought into the Dream mine is because of Jesse Knight's dream.

[Goatnapper'96]

Originally Posted by fusnik11

The Kirtland Temple dedications were a prime example of this expectation that visions were to occur. Mass accounts of angelic visitations rivaled only by events found in the Bible from the common, average member of the church.

But who knows what really happened at the dedication as some accounts claim that the visions came only after long hours of waiting and imbibing oneself in beverages not currently available to the visitation seeking, card carrying member.

Visions often became a "hey I got one too" in the early days. Saying that, I do believe many of the vision stories for the Kirtland Temple dedication. Obviously as the first temple in this dispensation and the role of the events that occured there are a big part of it, but even more I have often wondered what percentage of collective gdp the Saints sacrificed to build that edifice. It cost roughly $70,000 to build and if somebody was a little more proactive than me they could probably research the average income per family for the folks in that County in Ohio and multiply it by the # of male adult members.

I have attended one temple dedication in my life and I thought it was pretty spiritual, albeit the only angel I saw was that tightbodied lady M from Rockland, Idaho.....I think if the collective membership of the Church was as unified in one project as they were the building of the Kirtland Temple and sacrificed proportionally, there would be similar Pentecostal experiences.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by SoonerCoug

Anyone else ever heard of this? I guess some people are "keeping the dream alive."

In 19th century Utah County, a man had a vision of a Nephite mine where he saw layers of earth and ancient treasures that would save the Church during difficult times. The structure is visible from many miles away in south Utah County. Of course, nothing was every found in "The Dream Mine." But it seems that some people are still optimistic.

Here are some links on the topic. I think it's sort of an interesting/crazy situation. I also think it says something about the environment of 19th century Mormonism, where visions were common and maybe even expected for the average member of the Church.

http://historytogo.utah.gov/utah_cha...dreammine.html

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Dream-Mine/

Photo: http://www.utahlegends.com/wp-images..._mine/mill.jpg

One of my boys used to go out looking for lost mines. He doesn't anymore. I asked why not and he just said once you find one the government makes it very hard to cash in, they want it. He said you have to unload it very slowly so as to not let the government know you found it.

He said that since I ingrained in him the need to be honest he would never cheat the government and therefor it wouldn't be worth finding a lost treasure.