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MikeWaters · 12-02-2009, 01:33 PM

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Thought you all would be interested in this.

Many reasons why we follow a prophet....

Jane Parker, who is the late Elder Wirthlin's daughter, told us the following story today in Relief Society. She went to a talk by a lawyer for the European Area (each area of the Church has a legal department). The talk was about the ability to have a temple built in Rome, Italy which was announced as a done deal in conference recently. He stated that they knew they needed to have contact with the cardinals of the Catholic Church to see if they would approve or go along with our desire to have a temple built there. He heard of a reception at which the cardinals would be present, and the legal department for the church was also invited. He approached one cardinal and talked to him about the issue. The cardinal said, "We will support you in any effort you want because of your support of Proposition 8 in California."

Jane's comment was that she doesn't think the Church people in California who worked so long and so hard on getting that proposition passed and many even suffered persecution probably know that they were the instruments in getting a temple built in Rome, Italy.

Hmmmm.......

Sleeping in EQ · 12-02-2009, 02:20 PM

It seems like a combination of nonsense and Mullah fantasy (but not old school Mullah fantasy--they would never accept a quid pro quo with the Church of the Devil!).

Tex · 12-02-2009, 04:01 PM

I've seen that as well. Probably just another faith-promoting rumor, but not as far-fetched as SIEQ grumpily suggests. As with any of these things, I'd like to see some substantiation before passing it along further.

Sleeping in EQ · 12-02-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

I've seen that as well. Probably just another faith-promoting rumor, but not as far-fetched as SIEQ grumpily suggests. As with any of these things, I'd like to see some substantiation before passing it along further.

I'm not grumpy, not even a little. But that thing is waaaaaay out there.

Tex · 12-02-2009, 06:37 PM

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I'm not grumpy, not even a little. But that thing is waaaaaay out there.

Why? I don't find it so amazing that the Catholic church's hierarchy might have been positively influenced by the collaborative effort in favor of traditional marriage, enough to be open to permitting a Rome temple.

That's not to say I necessarily believe this particular story.

ute4ever · 12-02-2009, 07:34 PM

Personally I think it's great that the 30 non-Catholics in Rome will no longer have to travel 400 miles to the temple in Bern. All it took was alienating 10% of the U.S. population.

MikeWaters · 12-02-2009, 07:36 PM

What's the big deal about a temple in Rome?

Sure it is nice. Sure it will be a blessing to the Saints in that part of Italy. But is it some kind of manifestation of the power of God resting with the church?

East German temple much bigger deal.

A temple in mainland China would be a much, much bigger deal. Is there one? I can't remember.

Tex · 12-02-2009, 08:12 PM

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Personally I think it's great that the 30 non-Catholics in Rome will no longer have to travel 400 miles to the temple in Bern. All it took was alienating 10% of the U.S. population.

They weren't going to join the church anyway.

Sleeping in EQ · 12-02-2009, 09:18 PM

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They weren't going to join the church anyway.

Have you given up on "The stone that will fill the whole earth" business?

I wonder if that teaching is in decline.

Tex · 12-03-2009, 04:00 AM

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Have you given up on "The stone that will fill the whole earth" business?

I wonder if that teaching is in decline.

You forget that the stone smashed a few things on the way to filling the earth.

12-02-2009, 02:20 PM	#2
Sleeping in EQ Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The People's Republic of Monsanto Posts: 3,085	It seems like a combination of nonsense and Mullah fantasy (but not old school Mullah fantasy--they would never accept a quid pro quo with the Church of the Devil!). __________________ "Do not despise the words of prophets, but test everything; hold fast to what is good; " 1 Thess. 5:21 (NRSV) We all trust our own unorthodoxies. Last edited by Sleeping in EQ; 12-02-2009 at 02:23 PM.

12-02-2009, 04:01 PM	#3
Tex Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,596	I've seen that as well. Probably just another faith-promoting rumor, but not as far-fetched as SIEQ grumpily suggests. As with any of these things, I'd like to see some substantiation before passing it along further. __________________ "Have we been commanded not to call a prophet an insular racist? Link?" "And yes, [2010] is a very good year to be a Democrat. Perhaps the best year in decades ..." - Cali Coug "Oh dear, granny, what a long tail our puss has got." - Brigham Young

12-02-2009, 07:34 PM	#6
ute4ever I must not tell lies Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,103	Personally I think it's great that the 30 non-Catholics in Rome will no longer have to travel 400 miles to the temple in Bern. All it took was alienating 10% of the U.S. population.

12-02-2009, 07:36 PM	#7
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	What's the big deal about a temple in Rome? Sure it is nice. Sure it will be a blessing to the Saints in that part of Italy. But is it some kind of manifestation of the power of God resting with the church? East German temple much bigger deal. A temple in mainland China would be a much, much bigger deal. Is there one? I can't remember.