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8ballrollin · 02-21-2008, 12:25 AM

Isn't the Times having premature electulation by running this type of story now and not after the conventions?

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A female lobbyist had been turning up with him at fund-raisers, visiting his offices and accompanying him on a client’s corporate jet. Convinced the relationship had become romantic, some of his top advisers intervened to protect the candidate from himself — instructing staff members to block the woman’s access, privately warning her away and repeatedly confronting him, several people involved in the campaign said on the condition of anonymity.

I think it's a legitimate piece, for sure. And I await similar pieces about Mr Obama's past on the front page of the Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us...mccain.html?hp

Cali Coug · 02-21-2008, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 8ballrollin

Isn't the Times having premature electulation by running this type of story now and not after the conventions?

I think it's a legitimate piece, for sure. And I await similar pieces about Mr Obama's past on the front page of the Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us...mccain.html?hp

I agree. You should have some pretty convincing evidence before publishing something like that (and the evidence needs to be more than some unidentified source "close to the campaign").

Frank Ryan · 02-21-2008, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 8ballrollin

Isn't the Times having premature electulation by running this type of story now and not after the conventions?

I think it's a legitimate piece, for sure. And I await similar pieces about Mr Obama's past on the front page of the Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us...mccain.html?hp

that is a total cheapshot article.

that is definitely unethical journalism

myboynoah · 02-21-2008, 04:28 AM

When I first saw Oberman talking about it I thought, "Oh no." But then the details:

Over eight years ago
Only fears of a romantic relationship
Unamed sources that used to work for McCain

Olbermann kept trying to draw parallels with Clinton and Lewinski. That guy is a total idiot.

SeattleUte · 02-21-2008, 04:30 AM

They both deny a romantic relationship, and even so this was eight years ago? Seemingly the disgruntled former staffer who's the source doesn't even know if there was an affair. This is news? What's gotten into the Times? I've never seen it sink so low.

Frank Ryan · 02-21-2008, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

They both deny a romantic relationship, and even so this was eight years ago? Seemingly the disgruntled former staffer who's the source doesn't even know if there was an affair. This is news? What's gotten into the Times? I've never seen it sink so low.

this type of "article" should be sequestered to the realm of gossip sites not a major newspaper

il Padrino Ute · 02-21-2008, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Ryan

this type of "article" should be sequestered to the realm of gossip sites not a major newspaper

Yep. This is People material.

8ballrollin · 02-21-2008, 09:46 AM

It's complete BS. I read the NYT daily, but this is crap - to front page Natl Enqr type of stuff with NO on-the-record source. They would NEVER publish a story like this about Obama's alleged drug use. What a joke.

8ballrollin · 02-21-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 8ballrollin

It's complete BS. I read the NYT daily, but this is crap - to front page Natl Enqr type of stuff with NO on-the-record source. They would NEVER publish a story like this about Obama's alleged drug use. What a joke.

Last reason this is a joke: A nearly decade-old rumor and the Times knew about it when? How long have they been sitting on this story? It's only published when? Oh, that's right...after he has the nomination.

It's this type of crap that shows the WSJ is superior to the Times in serous domestic news reporting.

Mormon Red Death · 02-21-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I agree. You should have some pretty convincing evidence before publishing something like that (and the evidence needs to be more than some unidentified source "close to the campaign").

Its the New York Times! All the news that's fit to make up.

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myboynoah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Memphis freakin' Tennessee!!!!! Posts: 4,530	When I first saw Oberman talking about it I thought, "Oh no." But then the details: Over eight years ago Only fears of a romantic relationship Unamed sources that used to work for McCain Olbermann kept trying to draw parallels with Clinton and Lewinski. That guy is a total idiot. __________________ Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!! Religion rises inevitably from our apprehension of our own death. To give meaning to meaninglessness is the endless quest of all religion. When death becomes the center of our consciousness, then religion authentically begins. Of all religions that I know, the one that most vehemently and persuasively defies and denies the reality of death is the original Mormonism of the Prophet, Seer and Revelator, Joseph Smith. Last edited by myboynoah; 02-21-2008 at 01:48 PM.

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SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	They both deny a romantic relationship, and even so this was eight years ago? Seemingly the disgruntled former staffer who's the source doesn't even know if there was an affair. This is news? What's gotten into the Times? I've never seen it sink so low. __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster

02-21-2008, 09:46 AM	#8
8ballrollin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: WA Posts: 1,287	It's complete BS. I read the NYT daily, but this is crap - to front page Natl Enqr type of stuff with NO on-the-record source. They would NEVER publish a story like this about Obama's alleged drug use. What a joke. __________________ "Five to one... One in five No one here gets out alive"