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Venkman · 11-09-2007, 05:17 PM

Carter is the worst:

Horrible leader (malaise speech)
Awful economy
Never met an anti-American dictator he didn't love
Gave us Ayatollah Iran which has spread Islamist ideology all over the world

Tex · 11-09-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Gore won the popular vote because more people wanted him to be the President.

Gore did win the popular vote. But someone who thinks the Bush era has been worse than Carter, and who can 7 years later still say with a straight face that Bush "stole" the election, doesn't exist in political reality.

Tex · 11-09-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

I'm no fan of Rove at all, but I agree that he's a heckuva strategist. Without Rove, Bush is politically insignificant.

Speaking of Rove ...

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editor...l?id=110010843

Cali Coug · 11-09-2007, 07:29 PM

It depends heavily on what you mean by "best."

LBJ was instrumental with civil rights reform, medicare, aid to education, etc. The problem is his foreign policy was awful.

Nixon was great with foreign policy, but his domestic policy was awful.

Clinton was excellent all around, but couldn't keep his fly up.

JFK was inspirational, but also largley responsible for Vietnam.

Reagan took the national debt from under $1 trillion to over $5 trillion in just 8 years, but was really popular.

Carter was just bad.

Bush I wasn't good either, but far better than his son.

TripletDaddy · 11-09-2007, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

doesn't exist in political reality.

I think you were trying to be eloquent with this.

Nice.

What does it mean?

hammer · 11-09-2007, 07:32 PM

Is it GWB in a landslide? I can only remember back to Reagan. I would guess a big portion of W's poor approval rating can be blamed on his horid public speaking skills.

TripletDaddy · 11-09-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hammer

Is it GWB in a landslide? I can only remember back to Reagan. I would guess a big portion of W's poor approval rating can be blamed on his horid public speaking skills.

Yeah.

If you are going to be the leader of the free world and stuff, you might want to be able to speak smartly and stuff, you know? intelligence is a cool character trait in a commander-in-chief. I am just an ideaologist, though....we all know that those kinds of people dont really exist in real life...or in political reality.

ChinoCoug · 11-12-2007, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

20% interest rates, anyone?

????

following that same logic Bush takes blame for 9-11

NorCal Cat · 11-13-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I don't hear too many bitter complaints against Bill Clinton by conservatives, other than that he lied about a blow job.
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What planet were you on during the Billary years? For starters, there was all the pardons the pardons given at the 11th hour of their term. That was an outrage if you look at the details of who was pardoned, and the money that exchanged hands over it.

NorCal Cat · 11-13-2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Gore won.

It took Supreme Court intervention for Bush to finally claim the presidency. Hail to the Thief!

Bullshit. It took the Court to stop the ridiculous re-counts that Gore kept demanding. Nice revisionist history.

11-09-2007, 07:32 PM	#46
hammer Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 33	Who's been the worst public speaking president? Is it GWB in a landslide? I can only remember back to Reagan. I would guess a big portion of W's poor approval rating can be blamed on his horid public speaking skills.

11-09-2007, 05:17 PM	#41
Venkman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: South Jordan, UT Posts: 1,799	Carter is the worst: Horrible leader (malaise speech) Awful economy Never met an anti-American dictator he didn't love Gave us Ayatollah Iran which has spread Islamist ideology all over the world

11-09-2007, 07:29 PM	#44
Cali Coug Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,996	It depends heavily on what you mean by "best." LBJ was instrumental with civil rights reform, medicare, aid to education, etc. The problem is his foreign policy was awful. Nixon was great with foreign policy, but his domestic policy was awful. Clinton was excellent all around, but couldn't keep his fly up. JFK was inspirational, but also largley responsible for Vietnam. Reagan took the national debt from under $1 trillion to over $5 trillion in just 8 years, but was really popular. Carter was just bad. Bush I wasn't good either, but far better than his son.