My brother, 2 years younger than me, is gay

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Levin

Your brother's gay marriage will affect your family greatly when your son reaches puberty and begins to receive conflicting sexual signals.

What bullshit.

[Levin]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

What bullshit.

How so?

If Waters' son is intermittently attracted to members of the same sex (not talking about those who are born completely and totally attracted), in the hormonal melieu that is adolescence, whether his son chooses to act or not act on his feelings will be greatly influenced by his beloved uncle's life.

This may or may not affect Waters' life positively. I did not make a normative judgment.

[Sleeping in EQ]

Originally Posted by Levin

Your brother's gay marriage will affect your family greatly when your son reaches puberty and begins to receive conflicting sexual signals.

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Despicable.

[SteelBlue]

Originally Posted by Levin

Your brother's gay marriage will affect your family greatly when your son reaches puberty and begins to receive conflicting sexual signals.

Levin, you sure beat this drum a lot. I don't find it to be a convincing threat as you seem to imply there are legions of conficted teens out there just waiting for the societal ok to bump uglies with someone of the same sex. While there may be some conflicted souls out there, I doubt there are many. I especially fail to see your link between legalized gay marriage and increased sexual experimentation.

[Levin]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

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Despicable.

Dudes. All I'm talking about is the influence that family relationships have on the choices of family members. How can you dispute this? I'm not making a normative judgment. Waters said that if his brother got married, it wouldn't affect his family. I don't see how that is possible.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Levin

Your brother's gay marriage will affect your family greatly when your son reaches puberty and begins to receive conflicting sexual signals.

Here we go again! Scaremongering 101.

Please explain. What conlficting signals will he begin to receive at puberty?

You must be referring to the public school sex ed classes that will base grades in part by how much gay sex you have during the semester.

[Levin]

Originally Posted by SteelBlue

Levin, you sure beat this drum a lot. I don't find it to be a convincing threat as you seem to imply there are legions of conficted teens out there just waiting for the societal ok to bump uglies with someone of the same sex. While there may be some conflicted souls out there, I doubt there are many. I especially fail to see your link between legalized gay marriage and increased sexual experimentation.

I beat the drum b/c it's the only argument I've come upon that isn't spiritual for opposing gay marriage. I agree, that we're probably only talking about a few people.

But, tell me: are teenage girls kissing each other more today than they were ten years ago? While same-sex experimentation has something to do with it, I think more of it has to do with peer pressure from the boys.

Be that as it may, my niece is one who has been influenced. She is 18 and claims she is bisexual. The sexual and social milieu of her adolescence, where the acceptance and encouragement of same-sex promiscuity by girls (whether for themselves or for the scinitillation of the boys), has influenced her choices greatly.

[FarrahWaters]

Originally Posted by Levin

Dudes. All I'm talking about is the influence that family relationships have on the choices of family members. How can you dispute this? I'm not making a normative judgment. Waters said that if his brother got married, it wouldn't affect his family. I don't see how that is possible.

You seem to be suggesting that you believe homosexuality is a choice. That is the problem I have with your statement.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Levin

How so?

If Waters' son is intermittently attracted to members of the same sex (not talking about those who are born completely and totally attracted), in the hormonal melieu that is adolescence, whether his son chooses to act or not act on his feelings will be greatly influenced by his beloved uncle's life.

This may or may not affect Waters' life positively. I did not make a normative judgment.

There isn't a shred of mainstream science to support this crap you're spewing. Levin, it's time for you to decide what kind of man you are. Are you a man of science and reason, or a purveyer of superstition and hate? You aren't a child, but you're talking like you don't even have a high school education, and I for one am fast losing respect for you. If you want to have an intelligent discussion about your extreme assertion please give us some support for your position.

[UtahDan]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Tex, I'm not sure this thread was the right place to be making that comment. Mike, you undoubtedly face a difficult situation that most of us can't fully understand and appreciate.

Whatever Tex is, and I personally find there to be some interesting things there, he is utterly without compassion. He has either lived a life that has embittered him or he is so young that he has not watched the rubber hit the road often enough to have the hard edges come off. That even Indy is able to stop fellatiating (royalty check is in the mail SU) him long enough to see this is pretty strong evidence.