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marsupial · 12-06-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

BTW Danimal, you look great in your wife's avatar. Looks like you've been working out.

Danimal is way hotter than this schmuck.

smokymountainrain · 12-06-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

Ahhh, I have been waiting for you to ask.

Laura Pausini.

Check her out at:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TwcKY4XMuC0

(safe for work--everything she has ever done is safe for work)

Laura Pausini...wow. She was very popular in the mid-90s in South America when I was on my mission down there. Despite her music seemingly being played 24/7, I don't think I ever saw a picture of her. Damn.

BarbaraGordon · 12-07-2007, 02:35 AM

Might I say, Soup, that is one f-i-n-e avatar you've got there.

That stinks about your kid's school. Even in Oklahoma they don't do stuff like that. The kids aren't even allowed to have Christmas parties anymore.

Sooner, they originally lit the buildings in memory of the 168 lives lost in the bombing. Then they just left it that way. In a lot of ways the city never really got over it.

Mormon Red Death · 12-07-2007, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam

Ahhh, I have been waiting for you to ask.

Laura Pausini.

Check her out at:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TwcKY4XMuC0

(safe for work--everything she has ever done is safe for work)

La solitudine is a great song

woot · 12-07-2007, 02:56 AM

I always liked Mormons' attitude toward the cross. It isn't avoided, obviously, but it isn't set up as an object to be worshiped. I remember on my mission wondering if these evangelical churches would have giant electric chairs or IVs decorating their walls had the technology been different.

BlueK · 07-01-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

We use symbols. Angel Moroni on the temple is a symbol. CTR ring's a symbol. Obviously there are temple and garment symbols. We are a church that uses a lot of symbols. I don't buy this argument against the cross.

I don't care who uses the cross but I don't think the fact we've decided not to use it is anything to feel guilty about. Given our claim to be a restored church, I'm not going to complain about not using a symbol that the type of Christianity we claim to be a restoration of didn't use.

The use of the cross as a Christian symbol originated with Constantine who in his vision that converted him to Christianity saw a cross that turned into a sword. Then he supposedly knew God intended for him to become a Christian and would help him defeat his enemies so he could become emperor of Rome. I don't know if that was before or after he murdered one of his wives and a son, but I think it was before. In other words, he wasn't exactly a great guy and there are plenty of reasons to doubt his sincerity. But that's a very old debate.

I didn't get this info from an LDS source. I got it from James Carroll, a former Roman Catholic priest and still practicing Catholic who has struggled to come to terms with the history of his church, particularly regarding war. I highly recommend his documentary, "Constantine's Sword." I found it at Blockbuster. He also addresses other issues about the politicization of religion and it's connection to war today. It's excellent.

http://constantinessword.com/

BlueK · 07-01-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

Wedding ring for one.

So we say, we put symbols on our temples (angel Moroni, sunstone, etc), we put symbols on our churches (steeples), we use symbols as a sacrament, we use symbols in the temple as signs and tokens, we put symbols on the garments we wear everyday, we use symbols in our popular culture with CTR rings and such, we discuss the importance of symbols frequently over the pulpit, but yet we condemn the cross just because it's a symbol and outward symbols are an incorrect tradition? Sorry, not buying it.

We don't use it because it's not the symbol we want to use for Christ. The first Christians didn't use it either. Of course we use many symbols.

MikeWaters · 07-01-2009, 05:42 PM

We don't use the fish either. Only our church is lame enough to depict a band freak on our spires.

BlueK · 07-03-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

We don't use the fish either. Only our church is lame enough to depict a band freak on our spires.

Whatever symbols we do use, we have no need to feel guilty about not using the cross. As you've said before, we don't have to try to be the Methodists.

marsupial · 07-03-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

We don't use the fish either. Only our church is lame enough to depict a band freak on our spires.

lol

And how did this thread get resurrected? (pun intended)

12-07-2007, 02:35 AM	#43
BarbaraGordon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gotham City Posts: 7,157	Might I say, Soup, that is one f-i-n-e avatar you've got there. That stinks about your kid's school. Even in Oklahoma they don't do stuff like that. The kids aren't even allowed to have Christmas parties anymore. Sooner, they originally lit the buildings in memory of the 168 lives lost in the bombing. Then they just left it that way. In a lot of ways the city never really got over it.

12-07-2007, 02:56 AM	#45
woot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 1,502	I always liked Mormons' attitude toward the cross. It isn't avoided, obviously, but it isn't set up as an object to be worshiped. I remember on my mission wondering if these evangelical churches would have giant electric chairs or IVs decorating their walls had the technology been different.

07-01-2009, 05:42 PM	#48
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	We don't use the fish either. Only our church is lame enough to depict a band freak on our spires.