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Detroitdad · 12-06-2007, 07:09 AM

Talk to the principal, but don't make a big deal about it, because people will talk and you don't want your kids to be thought of as complainers/atheists. We had a Jewish couple that protested the Salvation Army drop box, the Wreaths,etc. anything that could be construed as Christian in Tuscaloosa.

They succeeded in getting everything removed or placed just off school grounds pretty much, but they also succeeded in having their kids taunted and teased, and in getting in shouting matches at PTA meetings. But they went about it in a very public way that led to that outcome. Also, they never tried subtlety and tact, just confrontation and hysteria. Nobody was sad when their oldest child left the fifth grade.

UtahDan · 12-06-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

When it is your son's birthday, give each child a little bag with candy and the card that has the Articles of Faith on it.

You could give them little white Christmas M&M's and label the bag "seer stones."

Jeff Lebowski · 12-06-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by danimal

Lebowski, next time you're in town, drop by and say hi. We'll give you a cross as something to remember our lovely town by.

Will do. We can go catch a bite to eat at the Waffle House.

BTW Danimal, you look great in your wife's avatar. Looks like you've been working out.

jay santos · 12-06-2007, 02:24 PM

I'd think it was great my kid was surrounded by Christians. I'd follow the teacher's example and give out cross necklaces to the kids in my primary class.

UtahDan · 12-06-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

There has been no significant success in missionary work in Mayfield since that event in the late 80s.

Fear of the cross is stupid and harmful.

A little hyperbole here? I think the church gets to choose its own symbols and it has articulated a reason (which you I am certain are well aware of) for why the cross isn't one of them.

I don't think the fact that offense is given to clergy of other churches thereby is a reason to change this.

I agree that the cross is not an offensive symbol, but I see nothing offensive about our focus on the resurrection. The star of David and its symbology are not offensive or inconsistent with LDS belief either. But I'm not in a hurry to hang any up.

I see your point but I think you are overstating its impact.

myboynoah · 12-06-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

In Mayfield KY the Mormon Church purchased a chapel from some other denomination and had an open house as a missionary tool. During the building prep for the open house the Elders Quorum Pres went up on the building and took a chain saw and cut off the wooden cross from the steeple.

One of the funniest things I've read in a while.

I can just imagine the previous week's ward council discussing "upgrading" the new building. Bishop turns to the EQP, "First thing, get up on the roof and cut down that damn cross."

Archaea · 12-06-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

Seriously, I don't understand why Mormons are so cross adverse. The cross is just as much a symbol of the Atonement as anything could be. Remember, it is Mormon doctrine that the agony of Gethsemene returned on the cross. the Atonement was worked out there as much as in the garden in Mormon thought.

We should not be afraid of the cross, or offended by it, or run from it. Just because the Catholic's go too far with their bloody Jesus on the cross doesn't mean we shouldn't use the symbol at all.

Fear of the cross is stupid and harmful.

I don't fear the cross but to me it is a symbol of idol worship, not a symbol of the atonement. It represents the Nicene Creeds. If somebody gave one to my child, we'd simply put it in a drawer as a remembrance. I don't want my children relying upon such symbols of idol worship. Others wearing it don't offend me.

jay santos · 12-06-2007, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

I don't fear the cross but to me it is a symbol of idol worship, not a symbol of the atonement. It represents the Nicene Creeds. If somebody gave one to my child, we'd simply put it in a drawer as a remembrance. I don't want my children relying upon such symbols of idol worship. Others wearing it don't offend me.

We don't use symbols in Mormon church?

Why do we get uppity with the cross about being a useless symbol when we have plenty of symbols?

Is a happy face sun a more accurate symbol for true worship of God?

Archaea · 12-06-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

We don't use symbols in Mormon church?

Why do we get uppity with the cross about being a useless symbol when we have plenty of symbols?

Is a happy face sun a more accurate symbol for true worship of God?

When have I or my family used a happy faced sun as a symbol of worship? We have not, nor will we ever. We usually avoid symbols except in literature. We wear no jewelry, no symbols outwardly as our lives are mostly austere and symbol free.

creekster · 12-06-2007, 03:51 PM

Was there a "significant" amount of missionary work in mayfield kentucky before the Rambo-esque act of the EQP?

12-06-2007, 03:51 PM	#30
creekster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the far corner of my mind Posts: 8,711	Was there a "significant" amount of missionary work in mayfield kentucky before the Rambo-esque act of the EQP? __________________ Sorry for th e tpyos.

12-06-2007, 07:09 AM	#21
Detroitdad Resident Jackass Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Roswell, New Mexico Posts: 1,846	Talk to the principal, but don't make a big deal about it, because people will talk and you don't want your kids to be thought of as complainers/atheists. We had a Jewish couple that protested the Salvation Army drop box, the Wreaths,etc. anything that could be construed as Christian in Tuscaloosa. They succeeded in getting everything removed or placed just off school grounds pretty much, but they also succeeded in having their kids taunted and teased, and in getting in shouting matches at PTA meetings. But they went about it in a very public way that led to that outcome. Also, they never tried subtlety and tact, just confrontation and hysteria. Nobody was sad when their oldest child left the fifth grade.

12-06-2007, 02:24 PM	#24
jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	I'd think it was great my kid was surrounded by Christians. I'd follow the teacher's example and give out cross necklaces to the kids in my primary class.