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Mormon Red Death · 12-13-2007, 02:46 AM

just because 3000 people think its a sin doesnt mean it is. Are sins decided by a vote?

Its not a sin IMO

Archaea · 12-13-2007, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

just because 3000 people think its a sin doesnt mean it is. Are sins decided by a vote?

Its not a sin IMO

Nor is your avatar.

Post some more, you're becoming one of my favorite posters.

shobeewan · 12-15-2007, 05:07 AM

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I wish there was a place for, it is none of my business and between he and his Bishop. I am not saying that is the right answer, just the one I would give.

I agree with this, we had a fine member of our Elders quarum tell us that the Bishop had told him that a beer or two a year wouldn't keep him out of the temple. I suppose it wouldn't but at the time I pictured myself polishing off a cold one as my daughter comes into the house crying over some crisis in her life and asks me for a blessing. Now I know some of you aren't into the whole revelation thing, and that God doesn't really care to get involved in our personal lives, I happen to believe it would be very hard to give a blessing with the proper spirit at that time.

Of course I am also naieve enough to believe that God will help us in our personal lives as much as we are willing to let him. So I guess I am a Mullah??

Archaea · 12-15-2007, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by shobeewan

I agree with this, we had a fine member of our Elders quarum tell us that the Bishop had told him that a beer or two a year wouldn't keep him out of the temple. I suppose it wouldn't but at the time I pictured myself polishing off a cold one as my daughter comes into the house crying over some crisis in her life and asks me for a blessing. Now I know some of you aren't into the whole revelation thing, and that God doesn't really care to get involved in our personal lives, I happen to believe it would be very hard to give a blessing with the proper spirit at that time.

Of course I am also naieve enough to believe that God will help us in our personal lives as much as we are willing to let him. So I guess I am a Mullah??

A mullah? No just blissfully naive. He helps as much as we absolutely need it and probably not more.

I simply see him less interventionistic than you. That doesn't mean I view him as less loving, perhaps more loving as he wishes for us to make our own decisions.

NorCal Cat · 12-15-2007, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

A mullah? No just blissfully naive. He helps as much as we absolutely need it and probably not more.

I simply see him less interventionistic than you. That doesn't mean I view him as less loving, perhaps more loving as he wishes for us to make our own decisions.

I agree with this. God gave us a brain for a reason.

NorCal Cat · 12-15-2007, 06:27 AM

Why do some people think he must confess to the Bishop? If he has already stopped drinking beers, and has repented, when he goes for his TR interview, then he can honestly answer that he "obeys the WofW." Unless you actually think drinking some beers at Christmas time is a past sin that must be confessed to a Priesthood leader. This line of thinking would be ludicrous in my opinion though.

shobeewan · 12-16-2007, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

I simply see him less interventionistic than you. That doesn't mean I view him as less loving, perhaps more loving as he wishes for us to make our own decisions.

I agree he wants us to make our own decisions, but it doesn't hurt to run those decisions past him. I believe Father wants us to be happy and will help us. I am not one who asks whether I should put mustard or ketsup on a hot dog, but if there is a decision in my life that I am having trouble with, my experience has been that he will help us to know which choice is best. My personal experience has shown that you come out ahead if you follow his advice as opposed to ignoring it. I guess if that makes me naieve then I am, I don't think it would hurt for many on this board to have a little more faith in their lives, but I like this forum, it has some very enlightening views.

il Padrino Ute · 12-16-2007, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by shobeewan

I agree he wants us to make our own decisions, but it doesn't hurt to run those decisions past him. I believe Father wants us to be happy and will help us. I am not one who asks whether I should put mustard or ketsup on a hot dog, but if there is a decision in my life that I am having trouble with, my experience has been that he will help us to know which choice is best. My personal experience has shown that you come out ahead if you follow his advice as opposed to ignoring it. I guess if that makes me naieve then I am, I don't think it would hurt for many on this board to have a little more faith in their lives, but I like this forum, it has some very enlightening views.

There is no need to ask about some things, such as, if you are over the age of 9, there is absolutely no reason to ever think about ketchup on a hot dog.

shobeewan · 12-16-2007, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

There is no need to ask about some things, such as, if you are over the age of 9, there is absolutely no reason to ever think about ketchup on a hot dog.

BBQ sauce??

il Padrino Ute · 12-16-2007, 07:54 AM

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BBQ sauce??

That would be better than ketchup.

I'm of the belief that only mustard - maybe a bit of relish - should go on a dog or sausage.

View Poll Results: How do you view Bob?
He is not sinning and his interpretation of D&C 89:17 is fine	8	23.53%
He is not sinning, but he shouldn't drink beer socially	1	2.94%
He is sinning, but not a serious enough sin to keep him from holding a temple recommend	3	8.82%
He is sinning, but if he stops his TR status is okay without any confession to his bishop	13	38.24%
He is sinning, must confess to his bishop, but the bishop shouldn't pull his TR if he stops	9	26.47%
He is sinning, must confess to his bishop, and the bishop should pull his TR for some time	0	0%
Voters: 34. You may not vote on this poll

12-13-2007, 02:46 AM	#11
Mormon Red Death Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Clinton Township, MI Posts: 3,126	just because 3000 people think its a sin doesnt mean it is. Are sins decided by a vote? Its not a sin IMO __________________ Its all about the suit

12-15-2007, 06:27 AM	#16
NorCal Cat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Where do you think? Posts: 1,201	Why do some people think he must confess to the Bishop? If he has already stopped drinking beers, and has repented, when he goes for his TR interview, then he can honestly answer that he "obeys the WofW." Unless you actually think drinking some beers at Christmas time is a past sin that must be confessed to a Priesthood leader. This line of thinking would be ludicrous in my opinion though.