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Old 11-12-2007, 09:15 PM   #1
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I just read another article on the Marmalade district of SLC and their effort to define themselves as a "gayborhood." I'm intrigued by the effort to label and carve out districts that are predominantly homosexual. The 'Mos seem to be trying to create their own area in each city where others views aren't tolerated. As someone living in one of the areas they are trying to control, I get really sick of their constant efforts to silence the opinions of others and impose on others lives.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:19 PM   #2
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I just read another article on the Marmalade district of SLC and their effort to define themselves as a "gayborhood." I'm intrigued by the effort to label and carve out districts that are predominantly homosexual. The 'Mos seem to be trying to create their own area in each city where others views aren't tolerated. As someone living in one of the areas they are trying to control, I get really sick of their constant efforts to silence the opinions of others and impose on others lives.
Agreed. Why is it okay for "minority" groups to do this? Isn't this what the civil rights movement was about?
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:21 PM   #3
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Agreed. Why is it okay for "minority" groups to do this? Isn't this what the civil rights movement was about?
I think it is a version of the Robin Hood syndrome. The idea the the perceived disadvantaged can do whatever to those perceived as advantaged.
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Gays will typically move into marginal neighborhoods, that educated well-off non-gay folks would not move to. They start rehabilitating the neighborhoods and then suddenly the straight people start moving in as well.

Gay neighbors is about as good as you can do in terms of neighbors.

If you really hate what has happened then don't be a hypocrite. Donate the increased value of your home when you sell to an anti-gay group.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:31 PM   #5
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Gays will typically move into marginal neighborhoods, that educated well-off non-gay folks would not move to. They start rehabilitating the neighborhoods and then suddenly the straight people start moving in as well.

Gay neighbors is about as good as you can do in terms of neighbors.

If you really hate what has happened then don't be a hypocrite. Donate the increased value of your home when you sell to an anti-gay group.
I'm not sure what the donation nonsense has to do with it but what I hate is the effort to silence those with differing viewpoints. I like my neighborhood, I like my neighbors. The homosexuals in my neighborhood have not created the value in the neighborhood. The value was created by LDS families long ago and by the incredible proximity to downtown. What they have created in the Avenues and in other areas is an environment that is increasingly hostile to non-HGLBTC lifestyle friendly peoples.
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I'm not sure what the donation nonsense has to do with it but what I hate is the effort to silence those with differing viewpoints. I like my neighborhood, I like my neighbors. The homosexuals in my neighborhood have not created the value in the neighborhood. The value was created by LDS families long ago and by the incredible proximity to downtown. What they have created in the Avenues and in other areas is an environment that is increasingly hostile to non-HGLBTC lifestyle friendly peoples.
When you stop profiting from them, I'll listen. My account is set to "hypocritical post - OFF" right now.
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I'm not sure what the donation nonsense has to do with it but what I hate is the effort to silence those with differing viewpoints. I like my neighborhood, I like my neighbors. The homosexuals in my neighborhood have not created the value in the neighborhood. The value was created by LDS families long ago and by the incredible proximity to downtown. What they have created in the Avenues and in other areas is an environment that is increasingly hostile to non-HGLBTC lifestyle friendly peoples.
Is this a joke? The entire BeeHive state is currently operated under the unofficial mantra of silencing those with differing viewpoints. Why get upset when homosexuals want to get in on the alienation game in Utah?

It isnt a gay man's job to increase your property values. In Utah, you increase your property values by purchasing elaborate wicker crafts for your doors and porches, as well as digging a hole in your backyard for your trampoline. Also, leave lots of kiddie toys all over your yard that has no fence so that everyone can see it from 2 blocks away.

Similarly, if you want to create value in your neighborhood, sell your C class and buy an E. Or at least "re-badge" your C so visitors can see how wealthy the area is. You blame the gays but in reality, your logo-less vehicle is what is bringing down property values.
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Is this a joke? The entire BeeHive state is currently operated under the unofficial mantra of silencing those with differing viewpoints. Why get upset when homosexuals want to get in on the alienation game in Utah?

It isnt a gay man's job to increase your property values. In Utah, you increase your property values by purchasing elaborate wicker crafts for your doors and porches, as well as digging a hole in your backyard for your trampoline. Also, leave lots of kiddie toys all over your yard that has no fence so that everyone can see it from 2 blocks away.

Similarly, if you want to create value in your neighborhood, sell your C class and buy an E. Or at least "re-badge" your C so visitors can see how wealthy the area is. You blame the gays but in reality, your logo-less vehicle is what is bringing down property values.
Who said it was their job to create property values? Not me. I said I didn't want them trying to stifle the social and political environment. Mike wanted to talk about them "raising values" of property in my neighborhood. Maybe you should practice reading more of the posts before you start commenting and demonstrating your ignorance of the subject.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:36 PM   #9
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Gay neighbors is about as good as you can do in terms of neighbors.

that was a fun little generalization.

Call me crazy, but my experience is that there are good gay neighbors and bad gay neighbors, just as I've seen with straight neighbors. Not sure why gay neighbors would be any better than straight neighbors or vice versa.

funny how that works. Apparently you've had a different experience. One that doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, but who am I to argue with your experience? Assuming that is what you're basing that comment on.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:37 PM   #10
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When you stop profiting from them, I'll listen. My account is set to "hypocritical post - OFF" right now.
How am I profiting from them? If I owned a house in a bad neighborhood and gay people were moving in I would be profiting from them. For example, if I owned a house in Marmalade, you would have an argument. In the Aves...you have no argument. It isn't more gay now than it was before I bought. Therefore, explain how I am profiting from gay people if they aren't increasing demand?
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