Why Mrs. Spitzer stands by her man......

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by Tex

Does any politician stay faithful anymore?

Well, after all, our leaders are supposed to be representative of the citizens, right?

[RC Vikings]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Why are you all assuming Spitzer didn't have a Kirilenko-esque arrangement?

My guess is she could care less what he was doing on the side. He was happy and she was happy and then someone had to come in and ruin this nice little arrangement they had.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

Well, after all, our leaders are supposed to be representative of the citizens, right?

Anyone have any stats on what percentage of the population cheats on their spouse?

And if it's disappointingly high, why do we keep sacrificing our leaders for commiting the "sin of the people"?

[MikeWaters]

The guy resigned because of prostitution, not adultery.

This new governor admitted to adultery. he didn't break a law.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

The guy resigned because of prostitution, not adultery.

This new governor admitted to adultery. he didn't break a law.

I totally agree. Either one qualifies as infidelity, which was what Tex is commenting on.

Tex: estimates are 60% of men and 40% of women, but the assumption is that those numbers are low.

Also, I noticed that only 65% of couples reach their 10th anniversary. I can't decide if that's higher or lower than I would have expected.

[UtahDan]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

The guy resigned because of prostitution, not adultery.

This new governor admitted to adultery. he didn't break a law.

Are you sure adultery isn't illegal in NY?

EDIT: http://law.onecle.com/new-york/penal...17_255.17.html

[Tex]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

Tex: estimates are 60% of men and 40% of women, but the assumption is that those numbers are low.

So are 60% of men and 40% of women just being hypocritical, or are the denunciations of politicians' sexual malfeasance coming from the minority 40% of men and 60% of women?

Those are unfortunately recipicrocal numbers, making conversation on the topic difficult.

[SteelBlue]

Originally Posted by RC Vikings

My guess is she could care less what he was doing on the side. He was happy and she was happy and then someone had to come in and ruin this nice little arrangement they had.

I'd wager a large sum that you are correct here. I wonder if the high priced escort service was his way of reducing the risk of the public finding out. An affair in the normal manner makes it much easier to get caught. Especially if he made her angry somehow at some point. The call girls are never going to out you, it ruins their business.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Tex

So are 60% of men and 40% of women just being hypocritical, or are the denunciations of politicians' sexual malfeasance coming from the minority 40% of men and 60% of women?

Those are unfortunately recipicrocal numbers, making conversation on the topic difficult.

Tex, speak for yourself. I've never thought a politician was unfit for office because of adultery, necessarily, and I think the majority of the American people are with me. Clinton's problem surpassed adultery, since Lewinsky was a 22 year old intern, effectively an employee, and he was arguably the most powerful man in the country. This was also at a time when liberals were a little over excited about sexual harrassment; I remember Susan Estrich writing that any consensual sex between boss and subordinate ought to be per se actionable as sexual harrassment (she was attacking a Supreme Court decision that disagreed). So there was a hypcricy issue at play. Still, the vast majority of Americans disapproved of Ken Starr's transmogrification into morality cop as the polls and mid-term elections proved.

Is anyone running the New York governor out of office? Roosevelt, M.L. King and Kennedy remain icons.

I think you're projecting your own provintialism and that of those firebrands in the extreme minority who tried to impeach Clinton to the vast disapproval of Americans. By the way I heard Ken Starr lecture about a year ago and can attest he's a certifiable kook. I'm talking he makes Huckabee seem normal.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Tex, speak for yourself. I've never thought a politician was unfit for office because of adultery, necessarily, and I think the majority of the American people are with me. Clinton's problem surpassed adultery, since Lewinsky was a 22 year old intern, effectively an employee, and he was arguably the most powerful man in the country. This was also at a time when liberals were a little over excited about sexual harrassment; I remember Susan Estrich writing that any consensual sex between boss and subordinate ought to be per se actionable as sexual harrassment (she was attacking a Supreme Court decision that disagreed). So there was a hypcricy issue at play. Still, the vast majority of Americans disapproved of Ken Starr's transmogrification into morality cop as the polls and mid-term elections proved.

Is anyone running the New York governor out of office? Roosevelt, M.L. King and Kennedy remain icons.

I think you're projecting your own provintialism and that of those firebrands in the extreme minority who tried to impeach Clinton to the vast disapproval of Americans. By the way I heard Ken Starr lecture about a year ago and can attest he's a certifiable kook. I'm talking he makes Huckabee seem normal.

Does that put you in the 60% or the 40%?

Since you brought up Clinton, let's make sure the record's clear. The House votes on 4 articles of impeachment were:

228-206 passed
221-212 passed
205-229 failed
148-285 failed

The failed votes in the Senate were 45-55 and 50-50. Not exactly an "extreme minority" no matter which figure you consider.