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Old 01-15-2008, 04:54 PM   #1
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Default LDS Inoculation - Good or Bad?

Last Sunday we had our first JS curriculum lesson. Predictably, there was much discussion regarding the first vision. One sister who happened to have her copy of RSR in tow, posed the question of why there were differing versions of the FV (1832,35 and 38) as described by Bushman, et. al.

The instructor actually deflected the topic very well by saying she was not aware of these details and "in the interest of time" moved on. For several in the class this was clearly their first exposure to this topic. This inquisitive group later gathered in an empty classroom with the sister who asked the question and engaged in a lively discussion.

Seems to me it would be much more constructive to confront and address this topic in a structured environment. I know that Bushman has postulated that such inoculation would be a good thing. Perusing the manual, it is clear that we will get a sanitized version. Given the preponderance of available information, would we be better served by some level of inoculation?
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Old 01-15-2008, 05:01 PM   #2
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Did this sister happen to be a member of that fake AA choir in your fake ward in "Virginia"?
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Old 01-15-2008, 05:14 PM   #3
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Did this sister happen to be a member of that fake AA choir in your fake ward in "Virginia"?
Did I miss something?

The goal for me in a church meeting is to be inspired and uplifted and come closer to God. I see innoculation as a good goal, but not at the expense of other more important objectives in a church setting.

It's helpful to have a quick secular review of the background of the scripture text or topic. This portion of a lesson should be honest and would be a good time to provide some innoculation, but it shouldn't be the theme. The instructor would have to be skilled to provide that kind of innoculation in an appriate tone and appropriate allotted time and not let it take over the lesson and distract from the higher goal of worship and inspiration. It's not an easy thing to do.
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Old 01-15-2008, 05:31 PM   #4
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Did I miss something?
Actually Jay, there are lots of things you miss.
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Old 01-15-2008, 05:34 PM   #5
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Actually Jay, there are lots of things you miss.
ouch, but seriously this "fake" thing sounds like a good story. what thread was it on?
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ouch, but seriously this "fake" thing sounds like a good story. what thread was it on?
Here you go:

http://cougarguard.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10466

http://cougarguard.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10679

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How did you arrive at the conclusion that this was all a bunch of hooey?
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How did you arrive at the conclusion that this was all a bunch of hooey?
We have our vays to make people talk.
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How did you arrive at the conclusion that this was all a bunch of hooey?
I have been blessed with the gift of discernment. You all need to be very careful about what you post.
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