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[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by All-American

Between you, me, and the kitchen sink, not even the proposition's greatest proponents in the quorum of the 12 thought it would pass. It was never supposed to work.

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[All-American]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

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[Solon]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Another close minded comment..that if an institution stands up for something for what they believe is morally right, someone won't hesitate to use the deliberately dishonest smear tactic of calling it bigotry.

Though I do understand the ease of convenience which this offers.

Rocky, it is bigotry and it's not dishonest to say so.

Maybe it's the "morally right" thing to do. Maybe it's not. But it is bigotry.

[All-American]

Originally Posted by Solon

Rocky, it is bigotry and it's not dishonest to say so.

Maybe it's the "morally right" thing to do. Maybe it's not. But it is bigotry.

big⋅ot⋅ry
   /ˈbɪgətri/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [big-uh-tree] Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -ries.
1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.
2. the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.

[LA Ute]

Originally Posted by All-American

Between you, me, and the kitchen sink, not even the proposition's greatest proponents in the quorum of the 12 thought it would pass. It was never supposed to work.

I was surprised myself. The campaign's internal polls had it 48% to 48% on the night before the election.

I was also surprised that they got the 60% they needed in Florida and that Arizona passed their measure (on the second try). Like it or not, those results do send a message.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by Solon

Rocky, it is bigotry and it's not dishonest to say so.

Maybe it's the "morally right" thing to do. Maybe it's not. But it is bigotry.

So if I believe in the sanctity of marriage it's bigotry?

Sorry, but your dishonesty doesn't wash here.

You have a convenient crutch to back up a close minded belief that has no legs to stand on...pretty ironic considering what we're debating.

Try again.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Solon

Maybe it's the "morally right" thing to do. ... But it is bigotry.

That doesn't make any sense. Assuming the affirmative for a moment, would you mind explaining how moral rightness and bigotry co-exist? Is not bigotry by definition morally wrong?

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by All-American

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[Solon]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

So if I believe in the sanctity of marriage it's bigotry?

Sorry, but your dishonesty doesn't wash here.

Try again.

Why are you calling me dishonest? I'm just calling a spade a spade here. What did I lie about?

You confuse the hell out of me, Mr. Intellectual-Under-Cover.

[LA Ute]

Originally Posted by Solon

Rocky, it is bigotry and it's not dishonest to say so.

Okay, I guess that ends the discussion. This is a question that is simply beyond discussion. Already resolved. Over. Right?