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Old 05-14-2008, 12:10 AM   #1
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This is just additional evidence that TP is mentally weak. We will miss him next year to be sure, but he is soft as Charmin and does not have the brains God gave a soda cracker.
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Old 05-13-2008, 04:55 PM   #2
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Let's hope his own shot is better than the 40% he had last year.
You're just negative and need something to complain about.
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:09 PM   #3
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You're just negative and need something to complain about.
It's more of a case of "you don't know what you've got until it's gone" and "the grass isn't always greener".
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:11 PM   #4
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It's more of a case of "you don't know what you've got until it's gone" and "the grass isn't always greener".
I just always wanted to say that to you.
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:10 PM   #5
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Let's hope his own shot is better than the 40% he had last year.
I attribute Jimmer's shooting percentage to his playing time last year. If you take Jimmer's FG% from all the games he played 15 minutes or more last year his percentage jumps up to about 45%FG and 40% 3pt. I looked around and found that this is a common occurence from players who go from the bench to a starting role. Cummards fg% jumped up from his freshman year quite substantially as his mpg increased. Most the year Jimmer was in a situation where he either had to make a few quick shots or he was coming out of the game. So when he went in he had to take whatever he could get.

And as for the TO/assist ratio, as the year went on Jimmer got better at this. I beleive his to/ast was close to 2 through conference play.
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:15 PM   #6
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I attribute Jimmer's shooting percentage to his playing time last year. If you take Jimmer's FG% from all the games he played 15 minutes or more last year his percentage jumps up to about 45%FG and 40% 3pt. I looked around and found that this is a common occurence from players who go from the bench to a starting role. Cummards fg% jumped up from his freshman year quite substantially as his mpg increased. Most the year Jimmer was in a situation where he either had to make a few quick shots or he was coming out of the game. So when he went in he had to take whatever he could get.

And as for the TO/assist ratio, as the year went on Jimmer got better at this. I beleive his to/ast was close to 2 through conference play.
There's absolutely something to be said for player progression & for player consistency coming with playing time.

I've always been a supporter of Fredette getting more minutes as he gained experience - there's no denying that he's a player. And, I think by his Senior year he'll certainly be very much superior to Murdock (or Burgess if he ends up as a 2). Was he superior to Murdock last year? I don't think so - PERHAPS excepting the last few games of the year. Will he be superior this year? I think so - but I also think there will be some growing pains, especially early in the year, and mostly in the turnover department.
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There's absolutely something to be said for player progression & for player consistency coming with playing time.

I've always been a supporter of Fredette getting more minutes as he gained experience - there's no denying that he's a player. And, I think by his Senior year he'll certainly be very much superior to Murdock (or Burgess if he ends up as a 2). Was he superior to Murdock last year? I don't think so - PERHAPS excepting the last few games of the year. Will he be superior this year? I think so - but I also think there will be some growing pains, especially early in the year.

I am going to have to diagree. If Jimmer would have got a shot at pg from the start of the season he would have been starting before conference play. I mean he only started playing pg in the second UNLV game and he had him beaten out come the MWC finals. And between the 2 biggest games of the season against the tougest competition Jimmer averaged 13.5 ppg 3rpg 2apg with a 4/1 ast/to ratio and shot Just under 50% from the field. Put those numbers against any of Murdocks best two games against CSU and Portland and it still doesnt compare.
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:16 AM   #8
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I attribute Jimmer's shooting percentage to his playing time last year. If you take Jimmer's FG% from all the games he played 15 minutes or more last year his percentage jumps up to about 45%FG and 40% 3pt. I looked around and found that this is a common occurence from players who go from the bench to a starting role. Cummards fg% jumped up from his freshman year quite substantially as his mpg increased. Most the year Jimmer was in a situation where he either had to make a few quick shots or he was coming out of the game. So when he went in he had to take whatever he could get.

And as for the TO/assist ratio, as the year went on Jimmer got better at this. I beleive his to/ast was close to 2 through conference play.
Cummards shooting % went up because he understands what is and isn't a good shot and is good at picking his spots. That's the NUMERO UNO reason why.
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:34 AM   #9
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Cummards shooting % went up because he understands what is and isn't a good shot and is good at picking his spots. That's the NUMERO UNO reason why.
Wouldn't shooting percentage be a factor of several items, first shot selection and second experience which creates a comfort factor?

A guy who runs in not warmed up is not as likely to be as hot as somebody who's already in the flow of the game. And game experience will help a person improve his judgment when to take shots.
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I understand the bashing of peanut brain. But listen up, BYU just lost an opportunity to have a truly special year last year. No matter how you slice it this is a blow. Indy is right, BYU will be worse without him, despite his foibles. Compounding this is the fact Rose hasn't really recruited a whit. He's thrived (if you can call it that) on Cleveland's recruits. If Cummard goes, watch out, you guys are certainly in losing maybe catastrophic season territory depending on injuries or additional defections. The party's over for that underachiever Rose and BYU basketball is sinking back down to its natural equalibrium. Rose inherited a top 10 recruiting class. What has he done with his talents?

BTW, did you see that Boylen just signed an LDS thoroughbred from Georgia pursued by a number of big name schools including X and Auburn, as well as BYU?
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