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Indy Coug · 08-08-2008, 06:20 AM

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/2_ne/5/34#34

How many people came to America in the SS Lehi? In 40 years' time, would there be a sufficiently large enough group to have a war? Don't you think it would have been skirmishes at most?

BlueHair · 08-08-2008, 06:59 AM

It only takes two. I always hear war references in boxing and mma.

UtahDan · 08-08-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/2_ne/5/34#34

How many people came to America in the SS Lehi? In 40 years' time, would there be a sufficiently large enough group to have a war? Don't you think it would have been skirmishes at most?

I think some of the apparent population issues in the BOM are tough nuts to crack. War seems to connote more people than could have possibly been there. Then again, when I think of warring tribes or warring villages in the Amazon or in parts of Africa, I realize that village v. village can be a war and need not be that many people.

Levin · 08-08-2008, 03:51 PM

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I think some of the apparent population issues in the BOM are tough nuts to crack. War seems to connote more people than could have possibly been there. Then again, when I think of warring tribes or warring villages in the Amazon or in parts of Africa, I realize that village v. village can be a war and need not be that many people.

Or we can just accept that there were populations here prior to the arrival of Lehi's family and there was probably a lot of assimilation.

Indy Coug · 08-08-2008, 03:54 PM

Was Hagoth a Lamanite or Nephite?

UtahDan · 08-08-2008, 05:00 PM

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Or we can just accept that there were populations here prior to the arrival of Lehi's family and there was probably a lot of assimilation.

I don't know that there is any doctrinal support for that, but it certainly is a solution, though one wonders why existing populations would become involved in the wars of a very few newcomers.

Indy Coug · 08-08-2008, 05:03 PM

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I don't know that there is any doctrinal support for that, but it certainly is a solution, though one wonders why existing populations would become involved in the wars of a very few newcomers.

Perhaps the sides they were integrated with were already at conflict one with another, which helped dictate which areas the Lamanites and Nephites moved to.

UtahDan · 08-08-2008, 06:08 PM

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Perhaps the sides they were integrated with were already at conflict one with another, which helped dictate which areas the Lamanites and Nephites moved to.

Again, no doctrinal support for that but nothing that rules it out either.

T Blue · 08-08-2008, 06:23 PM

Went to a relatives wedding in the temple this AM and the officiator said something along the lines of:

If you were to have five children and they in turn have five and so on, and so on, in around 250 years there would be over 10 million people who are your offspring.

If correct, in 40 years worth of people you could very easily have wars.

Indy Coug · 08-08-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by T Blue

Went to a relatives wedding in the temple this AM and the officiator said something along the lines of:

If you were to have five children and they in turn have five and so on, and so on, in around 250 years there would be over 10 million people who are your offspring.

If correct, in 40 years worth of people you could very easily have wars.

Evidently, the temple officiator was neither a demographer nor an actuary.

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Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	How many people does it take to have a "war"? http://scriptures.lds.org/en/2_ne/5/34#34 How many people came to America in the SS Lehi? In 40 years' time, would there be a sufficiently large enough group to have a war? Don't you think it would have been skirmishes at most?

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BlueHair Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 1,148	It only takes two. I always hear war references in boxing and mma.

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Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	Was Hagoth a Lamanite or Nephite?

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T Blue Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Down by the River in a Van Posts: 216	Went to a relatives wedding in the temple this AM and the officiator said something along the lines of: If you were to have five children and they in turn have five and so on, and so on, in around 250 years there would be over 10 million people who are your offspring. If correct, in 40 years worth of people you could very easily have wars.