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MikeWaters · 05-17-2007, 02:24 PM

and then when his "we should double Gitmo" statement came out, I suddenly realized something: almost nothing distinguishes Mitt from Bush.

The guys on cougarboard couldn't even tell me how Mitt differed from Bush on the issues.

If you really, really look at the facts: there is very little to suggest that Mitt is principled, and A LOT of evidence to suggest that he is not.

Sorry Mitt, I am off the bandwagon.

BarbaraGordon · 05-17-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

If you really, really look at the facts: there is very little to suggest that Mitt is principled, and A LOT of evidence to suggest that he is not.

Sorry Mitt, I am off the bandwagon.

Congratulations! But this begs the question, is there a better bandwagon?

BlueK · 05-17-2007, 04:12 PM

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Congratulations! But this begs the question, is there a better bandwagon?

Yes. Libertarianism. But it's not much of a bandwagon unfortunately as we sink deeper into the world of more government rather than less.

BarbaraGordon · 05-17-2007, 04:13 PM

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Yes. Libertarianism. But it's not much of a bandwagon unfortunately as we sink deeper into the world of more government rather than less.

so you're voting Ron Paul?

BlueK · 05-17-2007, 04:23 PM

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so you're voting Ron Paul?

In the unlikely event he's still on the ballot when the primary comes to Texas I will vote for him. Otherwise I probably won't vote in the GOP primary. Chances are it'll all be decided before I get the chance to vote for anyone as the nomination process is so skewed towards a small handful of states.

BarbaraGordon · 05-17-2007, 04:30 PM

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Otherwise I probably won't vote in the GOP primary. Chances are it'll all be decided before I get the chance to vote for anyone as the nomination process is so skewed towards a small handful of states.

I know how you feel.

All-American · 05-17-2007, 04:37 PM

I suspect that the 24 hour news network has ended the era in which the President could be a popular figure. There is and always will be too much exposure for American voters not to find something they don't like about the government leaders.

The only way around this that I can see is for government leaders to get off the front pages of the papers is to stop doing things that are newsworthy-- id est, decreasing the size of the government. You'd think that if the government can't find things that are important enough to get on the front page of the paper that people actually like, that it would be a rather glaring sign.

I suspect America has wanted a more conservative government ever since Reagan came along. Bush I and Bush II's greatest flaws have been a very UNconservative approach to spending and regulation ("read my lips" comes to mind). Meanwhile, Clinton's greatest victory is the fact that he yielded so much ground to the conservatives.

JohnnyLingo · 05-17-2007, 07:22 PM

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I suspect that the 24 hour news network has ended the era in which the President could be a popular figure. There is and always will be too much exposure for American voters not to find something they don't like about the government leaders.

That's a fantastic point. I question whether Washington himself would have been as universally loved if he'd had CNN covering everything he did and said.

MikeWaters · 05-17-2007, 07:36 PM

When I liked Romney I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

But when I realized that my values regarding torture, Gitmo etc. didn't match wth Romney's I stopped giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Archaea · 05-17-2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

When I liked Romney I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

But when I realized that my values regarding torture, Gitmo etc. didn't match wth Romney's I stopped giving him the benefit of the doubt.

My guess is no leader shares your very idealistic views toward torture, and that you dismissing Romney for a silly, intangible reason.

05-17-2007, 02:24 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I was caught up in Romney fever for a time and then when his "we should double Gitmo" statement came out, I suddenly realized something: almost nothing distinguishes Mitt from Bush. The guys on cougarboard couldn't even tell me how Mitt differed from Bush on the issues. If you really, really look at the facts: there is very little to suggest that Mitt is principled, and A LOT of evidence to suggest that he is not. Sorry Mitt, I am off the bandwagon.

05-17-2007, 04:37 PM	#7
All-American Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,420	I suspect that the 24 hour news network has ended the era in which the President could be a popular figure. There is and always will be too much exposure for American voters not to find something they don't like about the government leaders. The only way around this that I can see is for government leaders to get off the front pages of the papers is to stop doing things that are newsworthy-- id est, decreasing the size of the government. You'd think that if the government can't find things that are important enough to get on the front page of the paper that people actually like, that it would be a rather glaring sign. I suspect America has wanted a more conservative government ever since Reagan came along. Bush I and Bush II's greatest flaws have been a very UNconservative approach to spending and regulation ("read my lips" comes to mind). Meanwhile, Clinton's greatest victory is the fact that he yielded so much ground to the conservatives. __________________ εν αρχη ην ο λογος

05-17-2007, 07:36 PM	#9
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	When I liked Romney I gave him the benefit of the doubt. But when I realized that my values regarding torture, Gitmo etc. didn't match wth Romney's I stopped giving him the benefit of the doubt.