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MikeWaters · 10-19-2005, 11:50 PM

define "prominent."

ewth8tr · 10-20-2005, 12:24 AM

I have a friend who was exed after commiting adultery. He was the EQ President.

Archaea · 10-20-2005, 12:45 AM

a bishopric member commit adultery and not be exed.

SteelBlue · 10-20-2005, 12:58 AM

To me prominent = GA, Stake Presidency, Miss. Pres., Bishop.

Archaea · 10-20-2005, 01:01 AM

let me get this straight,

a guy fools around, gets his hands slapped, can't hold a time consuming position, but ultimately gets back in full favor?

Is that what you're saying?

ute4ever · 10-20-2005, 04:39 AM

When I was a missionary in Arkansas, I met a guy who was 20 and had been ex'd twice. The first time he was ex'd was at 14. I don't know what a 14 year old has to do to get ex'd (I didn't ask him about it) but that's what the North Little Rock stake decided to do.

He was rebaptized at 19, and ex'd a year later for living with a girl and having a sexual relationship with her, while being separated from his wife, his divorce not being final yet.

non sequitur · 10-20-2005, 06:34 AM

After the council rendered its verdict, they instructed him on the new limitations: couldn't take the sacrament, couldn't give prayers, couldn't have a calling, etc. Then the bishop says, "But you can continue to pay tithing." He said it felt they were saying, "we don't really want anything to do with you for a year, but we still want your money." He was pretty put off by it, but didn't say anything.

MikeWaters · 10-20-2005, 02:02 PM

I don't really understand the point of disfellowship. Is it sort of like "we're going to give you a taste of what it would be like to be excommunicated, by not allowing full participation"?

Occasionally someone will be asked to pray and then say "no" or "I can't." In some ways it is courageous that these people show up to meetings given that sort of thing.

I hope I am released from my calling before I have be involved in a council or I hope the exec. secre. doesn't have to attend.

SteelBlue · 10-20-2005, 02:13 PM

When I was executive secretary they used the ward clerk during courts and I was not asked to participate.

Archaea · 10-20-2005, 02:29 PM

ward clerk is the one who is supposed to be there.

10-20-2005, 12:45 AM	#13
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	We have had a bishopric member commit adultery and not be exed. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

10-20-2005, 01:01 AM	#15
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	you're starting to make this look too attractive let me get this straight, a guy fools around, gets his hands slapped, can't hold a time consuming position, but ultimately gets back in full favor? Is that what you're saying? __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

10-20-2005, 06:34 AM	#17
non sequitur Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,964	I know someone who was disfellowshipped. . . After the council rendered its verdict, they instructed him on the new limitations: couldn't take the sacrament, couldn't give prayers, couldn't have a calling, etc. Then the bishop says, "But you can continue to pay tithing." He said it felt they were saying, "we don't really want anything to do with you for a year, but we still want your money." He was pretty put off by it, but didn't say anything.

10-20-2005, 02:29 PM	#20
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	it's at the Bishop's discretion but ward clerk is the one who is supposed to be there. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

10-19-2005, 11:50 PM	#11
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	define "prominent."

10-20-2005, 12:24 AM	#12
ewth8tr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South Salt Lake, Utah Posts: 1,742	I have a friend who was exed after commiting adultery. He was the EQ President.

10-20-2005, 12:58 AM	#14
SteelBlue Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norcal Posts: 5,821	To me prominent = GA, Stake Presidency, Miss. Pres., Bishop.

10-20-2005, 04:39 AM	#16
ute4ever I must not tell lies Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,103	When I was a missionary in Arkansas, I met a guy who was 20 and had been ex'd twice. The first time he was ex'd was at 14. I don't know what a 14 year old has to do to get ex'd (I didn't ask him about it) but that's what the North Little Rock stake decided to do. He was rebaptized at 19, and ex'd a year later for living with a girl and having a sexual relationship with her, while being separated from his wife, his divorce not being final yet.

10-20-2005, 02:02 PM	#18
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I don't really understand the point of disfellowship. Is it sort of like "we're going to give you a taste of what it would be like to be excommunicated, by not allowing full participation"? Occasionally someone will be asked to pray and then say "no" or "I can't." In some ways it is courageous that these people show up to meetings given that sort of thing. I hope I am released from my calling before I have be involved in a council or I hope the exec. secre. doesn't have to attend.

10-20-2005, 02:13 PM	#19
SteelBlue Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norcal Posts: 5,821	When I was executive secretary they used the ward clerk during courts and I was not asked to participate.