OK smart guys, explain this to me.....

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by Spaz

I'm 100% with you on this, 71.

Interestingly, your description in the second paragraph so nicely fits so many of those posting on this board it's silly.

You folks should organize a book-burning.

[Spaz]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

You folks should organize a book-burning.

I don't follow this logic. Apparently, because I disagree with the 'intellectual' trying to preach his version of gospel as truth, I despise scholarly study of religion?

On the contrary, I support the intellectual LDS community, and wish them the best. I think boards like this are an appropriate forum for discussing topics those individuals are interested in. I simply hope that those intellectuals will not deem themselves the teachers of others, and start pushing their opinions as truth.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

You folks should organize a book-burning.

Try not to be hurt if your intelligence has been affronted.

There are those who bring up a question and open it for discussion. I have no problem with this. However, there are those who are not content at the discussion phase. They make proclamations to other intelligent members sitting in class that, Baptism does not wash away your sins as if they know that for a fact. Please, if it isn't stated as fact somewhere in scripture, then it is simply conjecture.

I had a great institute teacher up at the U. Often he said, this is my opinion on what this scripture means. I thought, if it is good enough for him to say it is his opinion, it ought to be good enough for teachers in ward settings.

[Spaz]

Originally Posted by BYU71

Try not to be hurt if your intelligence has been affronted.

There are those who bring up a question and open it for discussion. I have no problem with this. However, there are those who are not content at the discussion phase. They make proclamations to other intelligent members sitting in class that, Baptism does not wash away your sins as if they know that for a fact. Please, if it isn't stated as fact somewhere in scripture, then it is simply conjecture.

I had a great institute teacher up at the U. Often he said, this is my opinion on what this scripture means. I thought, if it is good enough for him to say it is his opinion, it ought to be good enough for teachers in ward settings.

This is where I'm at as well. It's one thing to discuss & ponder the mysteries of the gospel. It's quite another to make determinations on those mysteries and to espouse those determinations to others as gospel truth.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by BYU71

Try not to be hurt if your intelligence has been affronted.

There are those who bring up a question and open it for discussion. I have no problem with this. However, there are those who are not content at the discussion phase. They make proclamations to other intelligent members sitting in class that, Baptism does not wash away your sins as if they know that for a fact. Please, if it isn't stated as fact somewhere in scripture, then it is simply conjecture.

I had a great institute teacher up at the U. Often he said, this is my opinion on what this scripture means. I thought, if it is good enough for him to say it is his opinion, it ought to be good enough for teachers in ward settings.

I'm not offended. I just got a chuckle out of all of the "reminds me of posters here on CG" comments. Especially when exUte chimed in.

[Spaz]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

I'm not offended. I just got a chuckle out of all of the "reminds me of posters here on CG" comments. Especially when exUte chimed in.

I admit I was abashed when I read the same comment I made in exUte's post. Ugh.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Spaz

This is where I'm at as well. It's one thing to discuss & ponder the mysteries of the gospel. It's quite another to make determinations on those mysteries and to espouse those determinations to others as gospel truth.

In one respect, this is a question of overstating the strength or validity of one's position. Heterodox members can be guilty of this, but so can orthodox members. Orthodox members can be guilty of it, when they're not aware when they're conjecturing.

[Spaz]

Originally Posted by Archaea

In one respect, this is a question of overstating the strength or validity of one's position. Heterodox members can be guilty of this, but so can orthodox members. Orthodox members can be guilty of it, when they're not aware when they're conjecturing.

True enough, the village idiot can be just as guilty as preaching false doctrine as anyone else. And, it bothers me just as much.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

I'm not offended. I just got a chuckle out of all of the "reminds me of posters here on CG" comments. Especially when exUte chimed in.

Not to many posters on here do the "this is how it is posts". They know if they do they will get a beating.

[JohnnyLingo]

Originally Posted by Adam

Yes, I recognize there is a sizable element in the church that would like to see it keep shrinking. I understand that a small tent of only those exactly like you is more comfortable for you. I pray you lose the battle, but admit it is going on and your team wins some of the battles.

I love how "you're on the road to apostasy" translates to "get the hell out" to you and Waters.

There's a distinct difference. But you enjoy being a martyr so much you refuse to see that.