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Old 12-04-2007, 06:13 PM   #21
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So you like being accused of being a Crowton apologist?
I like accurate criticisms.
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Old 12-04-2007, 06:50 PM   #22
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Oh come on now. I have met some competent fans here and there.
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Old 12-04-2007, 07:14 PM   #23
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I can prove mathematically that a 9-3 team with great SOS = 10-2 team with good SOS = 11-1 team with bad SOS = 12-0 team with terrible SOS, but BYU fans will never see it that way.
Am I missing something here Santos? Haven't you spent the last few months taking Hawaii's side in an ongoing argument with Smails? Doesn't this post contradict your earlier defense of Hawaii and their weak schedule?
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Old 12-04-2007, 07:18 PM   #24
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Like Pavlov's dog, Indy hates being accused of being a Crowton cronie or a Crowton apologist.

Right on cue.
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Am I missing something here Santos? Haven't you spent the last few months taking Hawaii's side in an ongoing argument with Smails? Doesn't this post contradict your earlier defense of Hawaii and their weak schedule?
Why would it contradict what I've said before? To understand where I'm coming from, you have to take as an assumption that a computer ranking for a team is the true rank of that team.

If computers say Hawaii is #12, then they are really #12. They'd be #12, no matter what their SOS was. The SOS is completely irrelevant to a team's strength.
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Old 12-04-2007, 07:22 PM   #26
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There is no more reliable CG metronome than you distorting someone else's view points. If Indy is Pavlov's dog, you are Old Faithful.
Come on guys, everyone paying attention knew Indy was the chief Crowton homer. Don't pile on Archaea for pointing it out.
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Old 12-04-2007, 07:34 PM   #27
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Come on guys, everyone paying attention knew Indy was the chief Crowton homer. Don't pile on Archaea for pointing it out.
As much as I rarely see eye to eye with Santos and Arch, they are both right here.
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Old 12-04-2007, 08:10 PM   #28
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Oh come on now. I have met some competent fans here and there.
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Why would it contradict what I've said before? To understand where I'm coming from, you have to take as an assumption that a computer ranking for a team is the true rank of that team.

If computers say Hawaii is #12, then they are really #12. They'd be #12, no matter what their SOS was. The SOS is completely irrelevant to a team's strength.
OK, just to clarify: you are saying that to the computers SOS is irrelevant? Obviously you don't feel SOS is irrelevant in judging a team's actual strength?
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OK, just to clarify: you are saying that to the computers SOS is irrelevant? Obviously you don't feel SOS is irrelevant in judging a team's actual strength?
Take the New England Patriots and hand them Hawaii's schedule. Do the New England Patriots suddenly become anything less than the greatest football team on the planet?

There's your answer. Santos is saying that if the computers have Hawaii at #12, that is DESPITE their SOS.
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