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DirtyHippieUTE · 08-17-2007, 10:32 PM

I posted on cb about this...

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...654043,00.html

Can you imagine being one of the miners? If you were trapped in a part of the mine with plenty of air and water?

How long would you want to live; in the dark, no food, and no help on the way?

I seriously get disturbed just thinking about them being alive down there...

creekster · 08-17-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyHippieUTE

I posted on cb about this...

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0 ,8599,1654043,00.html

Can you imagine being one of the miners? If you were trapped in a part of the mine with plenty of air and water?

How long would you want to live; in the dark, no food, and no help on the way?

I seriously get disturbed just thinking about them being alive down there...

Sadly, I think it is almost a certainty they are not alive.

ute4ever · 08-18-2007, 02:03 AM

The West Virginia miners last year were rescued alive on what, the tenth day?

I don't understand why in Utah they are drilling only one hole at a time. If there were at least four options, why didn't they drill all four at once?

creekster · 08-18-2007, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ute4ever

The West Virginia miners last year were rescued alive on what, the tenth day?

I don't understand why in Utah they are drilling only one hole at a time. If there were at least four options, why didn't they drill all four at once?

In W. Va 12 guys were trapped and they got to them within 41 hours. ONly one guy survived and barely at that.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/17/min...ion=cnn_latest

DirtyHippieUTE · 08-18-2007, 04:19 AM

This blurb about the 12 miners in that case really got me...

"...it was the long delay in getting to miners that caused 12 deaths in the Sago coal mine disaster in January 2006. In that case, there was no collapse, but rather an explosion in the West Virginia mine. If those miners had had outside communication, they might have known that their way out was unblocked and that no fire was in their path, that they could have walked out easily. Instead, they built a barricade to protect against toxic air, hunkered down and waited for rescue — but it never came, as mine officials were slow to gather a crew and to enter tunnels whose safety they couldn't ascertain. The 12 miners died of carbon monoxide poisoning."

They didn't make much of that on the news... That the dudes could have just gotten up and walked out... I'd like to know more about that... If they could have just walked out then why didn't somebody just walk in and get them?

So sad...

It seriously gives me the creeps... Sitting in the dark, waiting, hungry, and not knowing if you'll ever be rescued... If they are not to be rescued (which it appears that they will not) I hope they died in the original collapse.

Tex · 08-20-2007, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyHippieUTE

I posted on cb about this...

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...654043,00.html

Can you imagine being one of the miners? If you were trapped in a part of the mine with plenty of air and water?

How long would you want to live; in the dark, no food, and no help on the way?

I seriously get disturbed just thinking about them being alive down there...

It would be a horror no one could possibly imagine. I think the probability has to weighed very carefully, however. In at least one of the holes they drilled, the air did not have enough oxygen to sustaining humans for the duration, and in another it was extremely low (although survivable). There has also been no sound that has been positively attributed to them.

I'm not suggesting that's an automatic recipe to give up, but given that 3 men just died in the effort suggests that it has to be weighed very seriously.

I'm a little disappointed (though in their grief, I can understand it) that after two weeks and 3 additional deaths, the growing pessimism among those leading the rescue effort is being decried by the families. We can debate and/or doubt the mine's original safety, but I don't think anyone can claim that not every effort has been leveraged in their behalf since the accident happened.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

08-17-2007, 10:32 PM	#1
DirtyHippieUTE Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,151	If they stop searching for the miners... I posted on cb about this... http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...654043,00.html Can you imagine being one of the miners? If you were trapped in a part of the mine with plenty of air and water? How long would you want to live; in the dark, no food, and no help on the way? I seriously get disturbed just thinking about them being alive down there... Last edited by DirtyHippieUTE; 08-18-2007 at 04:14 AM.

08-18-2007, 02:03 AM	#3
ute4ever I must not tell lies Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,103	The West Virginia miners last year were rescued alive on what, the tenth day? I don't understand why in Utah they are drilling only one hole at a time. If there were at least four options, why didn't they drill all four at once?

08-18-2007, 04:19 AM	#5
DirtyHippieUTE Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,151	This blurb about the 12 miners in that case really got me... "...it was the long delay in getting to miners that caused 12 deaths in the Sago coal mine disaster in January 2006. In that case, there was no collapse, but rather an explosion in the West Virginia mine. If those miners had had outside communication, they might have known that their way out was unblocked and that no fire was in their path, that they could have walked out easily. Instead, they built a barricade to protect against toxic air, hunkered down and waited for rescue — but it never came, as mine officials were slow to gather a crew and to enter tunnels whose safety they couldn't ascertain. The 12 miners died of carbon monoxide poisoning." They didn't make much of that on the news... That the dudes could have just gotten up and walked out... I'd like to know more about that... If they could have just walked out then why didn't somebody just walk in and get them? So sad... It seriously gives me the creeps... Sitting in the dark, waiting, hungry, and not knowing if you'll ever be rescued... If they are not to be rescued (which it appears that they will not) I hope they died in the original collapse.