Stacking the deck against Prop. 8

[Levin]

Changing the wording of Proposition 8 on the ballot.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...,6470929.story

I don't agree with this. It's clearly a move to stack the deck against Prop. 8 and it's obviously politically motivated as Jerry Brown looks to run for governor in 2010.

[MikeWaters]

we have already briefly discussed this in another thread.

I think it is a fair argument that because gay marriage is now legal in CA, and wasn't at the time the language was drafted, that a change is in order.

But the courts will decide if it is fair.

[Levin]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

we have already briefly discussed this in another thread.

I think it is a fair argument that because gay marriage is now legal in CA, and wasn't at the time the language was drafted, that a change is in order.

But the courts will decide if it is fair.

We already know what the courts think.

[MikeWaters]

oh well, then. Fait accompli.

Have you sent your check yet to Protectfamily.com?

[Levin]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

oh well, then. Fait accompli.

Have you sent your check yet to Protectfamily.com?

I adopted a wolf, so my budget's already been busted.

[Clark Addison]

As Mike said, I think that this is a fair change in wording. However, I don't buy for a second the AG's spokesman when he says it wasn't politically motivated.

[Levin]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

oh well, then. Fait accompli.

Have you sent your check yet to Protectfamily.com?

In any event, why is $$$ the be all end all for you?

I find many other avenues much more effective than $$$.

But you're incredibly cheap -- fixated almost by the $$$ -- and so it would all come down to the big dollar signs for you.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Levin

In any event, why is $$$ the be all end all for you?

I find many other avenues much more effective than $$$.

But you're incredibly cheap -- fixated almost by the $$$ -- and so it would all come down to the big dollar signs for you.

I'm just trying to find out if the people here that support the church's effort the most feel strongly enough about it to donate some money.

Not a single person on this site has asserted that they have donated any money, to my knowledge.

If this is the church's Gettysburg, it seems like the members here aren't very much motivated to pitch in.

Even you.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I'm just trying to find out if the people here that support the church's effort the most feel strongly enough about it to donate some money.

Not a single person on this site has asserted that they have donated any money, to my knowledge.

If this is the church's Gettysburg, it seems like the members here aren't very much motivated to pitch in.

Even you.

I am going to donate. We are deliberating how much to give.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by creekster

I am going to donate. We are deliberating how much to give.

Obviously, you think it is the right thing to do to donate.

Do you think there might ever come the day you would regret the decision?

I.e. you may be telling yourself that you will be blessed for following the prophet even if uncertain, but do you think you could see yourself thinking later that the decision was wrong?

I've never talked to anyone who related vigorously supporting the church's racist rhetoric at the time. Much less anyone then saying they regretted it.

My prediction: if in fact this thing proceeds like blacks and the priesthood/temple (which there is very much doubt it will), I think people that vigorously fought against gay marriage will not talk much about it. Such is human nature.