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il Padrino Ute · 02-23-2006, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelBlue

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist."

---Kayser Soze

Question: Why won't my picture work? What am I doing wrong?

Perhaps this particular forum doesn't recognize the html tag to post pictures. I tried a few times to post your pic, but was unable to do so.

non sequitur · 02-23-2006, 12:59 AM

Here it is:

You need to take out the first part of the URL and just use this:

http://www.u2net.it/renaissance/arch...ages/usual.jpg

SteelBlue · 02-23-2006, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by non sequitur

Here it is:

You need to take out the first part of the URL and just use this:

http://www.u2net.it/renaissance/arch...ages/usual.jpg

Thank you.

myboynoah · 02-23-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

I don't think there is a problem with believing in a literal Satan. If people think they have an excuse for their wrongdoings, "the devil made me do it", the problem isn't with the literal existence of Satan, it's the pathological inability to take responsibility for one's own actions, and that problem would be made manifest regardless of the literal/symbolic nature of Satan.

I agree. After the Youth Minister ran off with one of the 17-year-old lovelies under his tutelage for a three day romp, my Born-Again sister-in-law noted that this was proof that no one is immune to coming under the influence Satan at any time. "This could happen to any of us," she testified. When I disagreed and assured her that it would never happen to me, she was taken aback, as if I'd just blasphemed.

I think she maintains serious doubts about my eternal salvation.

She's in good company, as I maintain the same doubts.

:twisted:

Mormon Red Death · 02-23-2006, 01:59 PM

I'm in doubt for your salvation as long as you are a cougar fan.. :lol:

Indy Coug · 02-23-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ute4ever

The definition of insanity is repeating the same activity but expecting a different result.

Rebelling against God in His presence would certainly seem to be grounds for insanity.

Black Diamond Bay · 02-23-2006, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by UtahDan

The problem that I have with most of the descriptions of Satan's motives above is that they ascribe an irrationality of one kind or another to him. I don't think that he is irrational, just think he defines victory some other way than we do.

But, it seems to me that Satan has to be somewhat irrational to have made the decisions that he did in the first place. Is it really rational to come out in open rebellion against God?

I never thought there was a big need to believe in Satan. Then I read the Dream Mine by Norman Pierce, and saw how Satan had carefully plotted and laid out a plan for Bishop Koyle. If that's what we're up against, I think we need to know that satan exists. IMHO when the desires of the flesh fail to tempt us into sin, there is someone that will actually plot our demise.

JohnnyLingo · 02-23-2006, 08:47 PM

I figured this cartoon might apply to the discussion:

Drawn by Eric Snider

SteelBlue · 02-23-2006, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo

I figured this cartoon might apply to the discussion:

Drawn by Eric Snider

I sure hope that's Allah and not Mohammed. Otherwise we could have crazy riots on our hands.

Brian · 02-24-2006, 03:15 PM

Belief in satan (as a concept) can be different from a belief in a single dude named Lucifer who became satan.
I look at it more symbollically. There is an aspect within all of us that continually entices us to eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and hence deny us the fruit from the tree of life. That aspect is as real and powerful (maybe moreso) as some 6'2" 210 lb dude with a goatee named Lucifer that roams the universe causing mayhem.

Regards,
Brian

02-23-2006, 12:59 AM	#22
non sequitur Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,964	Here it is: You need to take out the first part of the URL and just use this: http://www.u2net.it/renaissance/arch...ages/usual.jpg __________________ ...You've been under attack for days, there's a soldier down, he's wounded, gangrene's setting in, 'Who's used all the penicillin?' 'Oh, Mark Paxson sir, he's got knob rot off of some tart.'" - Gareth Keenan

02-23-2006, 01:59 PM	#25
Mormon Red Death Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Clinton Township, MI Posts: 3,126	I'm in doubt for your salvation as long as you are a cougar fan.. :lol: __________________ Its all about the suit

02-23-2006, 08:47 PM	#28
JohnnyLingo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,175	I figured this cartoon might apply to the discussion: Drawn by Eric Snider

02-24-2006, 03:15 PM	#30
Brian Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Oak Ridge, TN Posts: 1,308	Belief in satan (as a concept) can be different from a belief in a single dude named Lucifer who became satan. I look at it more symbollically. There is an aspect within all of us that continually entices us to eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and hence deny us the fruit from the tree of life. That aspect is as real and powerful (maybe moreso) as some 6'2" 210 lb dude with a goatee named Lucifer that roams the universe causing mayhem. Regards, Brian