Has utefans.net overtaken cougarboard?

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by ute4ever

Can we expect a second wave in 2009, now that Utah has gone from BCS Buster to BCS Regular?

Unfortunately, yes.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Venkman

I don't know, Il Pad. Most of the BYU fans who hate "Utah", actually hate ute "fans", specifically, the 50% or so who despise BYU and the LDS church.

They're reacting in kind, but very few Y fans have real animosity to the UofU as an institution. You take away the mormon hater faction, and the level of venom will come down on both sides.

We're actually saying the same things about the alleged Ute fans. I say alleged, because they only care about the Utes one game a year and they don't even care about the Utes. They just hate Mormons and use the rivalry as a forum to do their bashing.

I understand what you're saying about Y fans that hate Utah, but idiot fans are a two way street. If no zoobs existed, the hatred for BYU would plummet.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

In my limited experience of meeting Ute fans and alums, their level of hate for BYU is an order of magnitude larger than BYU fans' hate for Utah.

If you had been raised in Utah, you would have a better understanding of the rivalry and realize how you're limited experience doesn't qualify you to comment on it.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

If you had been raised in Utah, you would have a better understanding of the rivalry and realize how you're limited experience doesn't qualify you to comment on it.

in other words, I am not provincial enough. Fair enough.

[Venkman]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

We're actually saying the same things about the alleged Ute fans. I say alleged, because they only care about the Utes one game a year and they don't even care about the Utes. They just hate Mormons and use the rivalry as a forum to do their bashing.

I understand what you're saying about Y fans that hate Utah, but idiot fans are a two way street. If no zoobs existed, the hatred for BYU would plummet.

True, idiot fans are a two way street, but zoobs and the LDS church aren't the same thing. Hell, I hate zoobs myself (though some accuse me of being one), but the Mormon haters would hate BYU, zoobs or no zoobs. I guess what I'm saying is your guys started it.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

in other words, I am not provincial enough. Fair enough.

If you want to state it that way to make yourself feel better, than you are correct.

[SeattleUte]

Nobody likes BYU. Ute fans aren't unique in that regard. We've discussed that BYU will never be invited to the Pac 10 simply because the Pac 10 titans don't like BYU. No other reason. Utahns who are outside Mormonism feel particularly oppressed, however. Here's a tip. If you realize lots and lots of people don't like you, don't just assume they're bad people and you're misunderstood or unfairly treated. Do some reflecting.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Venkman

zoobs and the LDS church aren't the same thing.

Yes they are.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Yes they are.

No, they aren't.

[Ma'ake]

Zoobs unchastened are the worst form of sports fans.

The Tater Zoobs (Boise) are a secular variant of zoob arrogance, complete with hideous turf.