Questions for mindful

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by mindfulcoug

we arenot obliged to wear chador (iranian version of burqa). no ..but yes some women who arenot able to embrace hijab concept might complain..

Does this type of stuff really happen or is the reporting overblown?

Iran's nationwide crackdown on fashions deemed un-Islamic has resumed in full force this week, at least throughout the capital, having slowed in the late spring. Vice police have established checkpoints and are stopping women in cars or walking along the streets with too much hair spilling out of their mandatory head coverings, or wearing open-toed sandals without socks or overcoats deemed too revealing. Men wearing tight T-shirts or boasting racy haircuts have also been targeted in a campaign to stamp out perceived Western cultural influences.

"The police will act against those whose trousers are too short, who have skintight coats, shirts with Western logos, and Western hairstyles," Ahmad Reza Radan, the head of Tehran's police force, said on Iranian television this week, according to the Associated Press. "We will ask those arrested where they bought their clothes and where they had their hair cut so those outlets can be closed down."

"Some young people, either intentionally or unknowingly, are walking advertisements for Western sexual deviancy and satanic cults," he told the Iranian Students News Agency.

Since assuming power in a revolution 28 years ago, Iran's Shiite Muslim clerical leaders have demanded that Iranians abide by strict dress codes that adhere to what they consider Islamic principles. In recent years, many young Iranians have begun to flout those rules. Iranians have become used to the periodic government-sponsored fashion crackdowns on the streets and in other public spaces.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...news-a_section

[Mindfulcoug]

Originally Posted by YOhio

Does this type of stuff really happen or is the reporting overblown?



http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...news-a_section

you keep a good track of women in iran which is quite impressive ,i am wondering if you follow other muslim women news in Turkey, England ,French ... who were kicked out of schools and universities becuase they chose to have hijab.

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by mindfulcoug

you keep a good track of women in iran which is quite impressive ,i am wondering if you follow other muslim women news in Turkey, England ,French ... who were kicked out of schools and universities becuase they chose to have hijab.

It was in the news here recently, so I was curious. Having the chance to communicate with an Iranian women is a privilege few here in America enjoy, so I thought I'd ask. I didn't intend for it to be confrontational.

Trust me, if we had a Turkish, British, or French muslim on this board I'd be more than eager to ask them about the hijab.

[Mindfulcoug]

Originally Posted by YOhio

It was in the news here recently, so I was curious. Having the chance to communicate with an Iranian women is a privilege few here in America enjoy, so I thought I'd ask. I didn't intend for it to be confrontational.

Trust me, if we had a Turkish, British, or French muslim on this board I'd be more than eager to ask them about the hijab.

well,the plan is all about improving social security condition ,so they are operating various approaches..
one of them is about collecting drug abusers off the streets ,organise different place to help them out or keep them out of cities if they are in a severe conditon and not cooperative with health care staffs..
another plan is about detaining vicious,dangerous persons who have been intimidating and blackmailing/threatening and also engaging in a horrified acts against ordinary people..
the other plan is for managing some outlandish clothing and appearence which has no intimacy with our culture nor religion... we are having an islamic government which enthusiastically advocate stable family and moral values.,how possibly we can have women wearing those flashing/ provocative cloths inviting men all the time and endangering women's diginty with being a matter of enjoyment for dirty eyes and minds.
it was sort of full report ,wasnot it?

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by mindfulcoug

well,the plan is all about improving social security condition ,so they are operating various approaches..
one of them is about collecting drug abusers off the streets ,organise different place to help them out or keep them out of cities if they are in a severe conditon and not cooperative with health care staffs..
another plan is about detaining vicious,dangerous persons who have been intimidating and blackmailing/threatening and also engaging in a horrified acts against ordinary people..
the other plan is for managing some outlandish clothing and appearence which has no intimacy with our culture nor religion... we are having an islamic government which enthusiastically advocate stable family and moral values.,how possibly we can have women wearing those flashing/ provocative cloths inviting men all the time and endangering women's diginty with being a matter of enjoyment for dirty eyes and minds.
it was sort of full report ,wasnot it?

Thank you for your thorough answer.

Do you think that non-Muslim people should be required to dress in that manner?

[Mindfulcoug]

Originally Posted by YOhio

Thank you for your thorough answer.

Do you think that non-Muslim people should be required to dress in that manner?

Non-muslims who have the freedom of practicing thier own religion ,profiting of having the right of electing and sending candidates to islamic parliment from their own ethnics and groups ,have the right to benefit of security and civil rights by all means like any one us in here ..shouldnot obey the government's law??
do muslims in the united state have the right to send a candidate to congress among muslims??

[non sequitur]

Originally Posted by mindfulcoug

...how possibly we can have women wearing those flashing/ provocative cloths inviting men all the time and endangering women's diginty with being a matter of enjoyment for dirty eyes and minds.
it was sort of full report ,wasnot it?

Thank God -- or Allah, in your case -- for women willing to have their dignity endangered. Did it ever occur to you that women who wear provocative clothing are simply empowered? That they choose to take ownership of their own bodies? That they choose to take control of their own sexuality? That they enjoy the freedoms that they are afforded? Did it ever occur to you that they are the ones to be congratulated? That you are the one to be pitied?

[Colly Wolly]

Is that why the radical Muslims are so angry all the time? They don't get enough sex, their women are in burqas (sp?), etc. ?

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

Is that why the radical Muslims are so angry all the time? They don't get enough sex, their women are in burqas (sp?), etc. ?

I imagine if a man could get a women to put a burkah on, he could use the same persuasive skills to get her to take it off.

I have read that radical Islam finds their best recruits among impoverished, young, single men. Married men are much less likely to strap on a dynamite back and run into a Tel Aviv pizza joint.

[Mindfulcoug]

Originally Posted by YOhio

I imagine if a man could get a women to put a burkah on, he could use the same persuasive skills to get her to take it off.

I have read that radical Islam finds their best recruits among impoverished, young, single men. Married men are much less likely to strap on a dynamite back and run into a Tel Aviv pizza joint.

i profoundly condemn attacking innocents jews ,enjoying hot pizza by palestinian terrorists even if it was thier own home which has been ruined and now has become a pizza /restaurant.