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Old 02-23-2006, 04:32 AM   #1
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Default Get to your foxholes... The Roe v. Wade war is on...

SIOUX FALLS, South Dakota (Reuters) - South Dakota became the first U.S. state to pass a law banning abortion in virtually all cases, with the intention of forcing the Supreme Court to reconsider its 1973 decision legalizing the procedure.

The law, which would punish doctors who perform the operation with a five-year prison term and a $5,000 fine, awaits the signature of Republican Gov. Michael Rounds and people on both sides of the issue say he is unlikely to veto it.

"My understanding is we are the first state to truly defy Roe v. Wade," the 1973 high court ruling that granted a constitutional right to abortion, said Kate Looby of Planned Parenthood's South Dakota chapter.

State legislatures in Ohio, Indiana, Georgia, Tennessee and Kentucky also have introduced similar measures this year, but South Dakota's legislative calendar means its law is likely to be enacted first.

That didn't take long...

I have a feeling this is going to get really, really ugly...
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Old 02-23-2006, 05:24 AM   #2
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Default This won't go anywhere.

South Dakota's law is patently unconstitutional. It will be struck down immediately, and I cannot see the Supreme Court even taking the issue up for review.

The Court may want to overturn Roe (though I really don't think they have the votes or the will to do so). Even assuming they do want to overturn Roe, this would be a dangerous vehicle to get them there. The Court loves its position of importance. It isn't about to de facto endorse the action of a state directly challenging its interpretation of the Constitution. If the Court wants to overturn Roe, they may do it, but they would do it in a case where an obvious constitutional question was at issue, not in a case where the Court has clearly resolved the issue already.
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It may be unconstitutional, but I'm happy to see this happen.

Abortion is murder.
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It may be unconstitutional, but I'm happy to see this happen.

Abortion is murder.
yeah ok....
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It may be unconstitutional, but I'm happy to see this happen.

Abortion is murder.
yeah ok....
Is it not?
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It may be unconstitutional, but I'm happy to see this happen.

Abortion is murder.
yeah ok....
Is it not?
theologically....nope....

philosophically.....nope....
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Old 02-23-2006, 04:09 PM   #7
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It may be unconstitutional, but I'm happy to see this happen.

Abortion is murder.
yeah ok....
Is it not?
theologically....nope....

philosophically.....nope....
Care to state why you feel that way, especially theologically?

I realize that the church recognizes conditions under which if the life of the mother is in danger that it's allowed, but that is one particular statement with which I disagree.

Others can make very good arguments about it being allowed if it from the result of a rape. Again, I disagree.

Abortion is, has been and will always be murder.
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It brings no joy to my heart. I wish they'd left well enough alone. We have issues of more practical significance which either will be put on a back burner or will be ignored.

These hot issues really are more symbolic, than significant in our daily lives.
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Abortion is murder.
I thought meat was murder.

Given that the church allows abortion in some cases, hard to argue that they are choosing to allow "murder" in the case of rape/incest.
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It may be unconstitutional, but I'm happy to see this happen.

Abortion is murder.
I thought meat was murder.

Given that the church allows abortion in some cases, hard to argue that they are choosing to allow "murder" in the case of rape/incest.
I can agree with this, though personally, I can't accept it. I suppose for me, this is no different than those who struggle to accept that there isn't any physical evidence of BoM civilizations.
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