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JohnnyLingo · 11-20-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

I don't see them martyring themselves. I see them disagreeing with the implications of Sis. Beck's talk. You seem to be the one who wants them to act like martyrs, so you can find fault with them.

A few who disagree with Sis. Beck's talk are almost hoping to get disciplined so they can wear the badge of "martyr" proudly.

It will be sad to see how disappointed they are when nothing happens.

BYU71 · 11-20-2007, 04:09 PM

The interesting thing about this is the bulk of women in the church really don't care what she said. They won't tell you this publicly, but they will privately.

I have asked several of my feemale relatives who heard the talk what they thought. The working ones said no big deal, the stay at home ones said, no big deal. They basically thought it was the Relief Society President giving a talk in conference and it was no big deal.

A small group on either side thought it was a significant talk.

Indy Coug · 11-20-2007, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

The interesting thing about this is the bulk of women in the church really don't care what she said. They won't tell you this publicly, but they will privately.

I have asked several of my feemale relatives who heard the talk what they thought. The working ones said no big deal, the stay at home ones said, no big deal. They basically thought it was the Relief Society President giving a talk in conference and it was no big deal.

A small group on either side thought it was a significant talk.

Bingo

MikeWaters · 11-20-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

The interesting thing about this is the bulk of women in the church really don't care what she said. They won't tell you this publicly, but they will privately.

I have asked several of my feemale relatives who heard the talk what they thought. The working ones said no big deal, the stay at home ones said, no big deal. They basically thought it was the Relief Society President giving a talk in conference and it was no big deal.

A small group on either side thought it was a significant talk.

Let me translate this: only a small percentage of women pay any real heed or attention to women speakers.

JohnnyLingo · 11-20-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

The interesting thing about this is the bulk of women in the church really don't care what she said. They won't tell you this publicly, but they will privately.

I have asked several of my feemale relatives who heard the talk what they thought. The working ones said no big deal, the stay at home ones said, no big deal. They basically thought it was the Relief Society President giving a talk in conference and it was no big deal.

A small group on either side thought it was a significant talk.

Exactly. The Waters' and santos' of the internet world are far more worked up about it than the average LDS woman.

It's nice of these men to be offended on their behalf, though.

BYU71 · 11-20-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo

A few who disagree with Sis. Beck's talk are almost hoping to get disciplined so they can wear the badge of "martyr" proudly.

It will be sad to see how disappointed they are when nothing happens.

You are exactly right. Nothing comes from her talk. I think the fear was that maybe she was saying something significant. Just like the fear that was out there when President Benson gave his "women in the workplace" talks. Everything went along just fine.

Some people have to deal with the zealots who take these talks and then try to lay some profound counsel on their fellow members. The best thing to do is tell the zealot to kiss your butt. I have done that before and never had a Bishop reprimand me for it. My guess is he wishes he could have said the same thing.

BYU71 · 11-20-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo

Exactly. The Waters' and santos' of the internet world are far more worked up about it than the average LDS woman.

It's nice of these men to be offended on their behalf, though.

By the same token, most women in the church don't feel the need to defend the talk with the same fervor as you and your compatriots do.

JohnnyLingo · 11-20-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

Some people have to deal with the zealots who take these talks and then try to lay some profound counsel on their fellow members. The best thing to do is tell the zealot to kiss your butt. I have done that before and never had a Bishop reprimand me for it. My guess is he wishes he could have said the same thing.

I agree completely. There's no place for members to suggest to other members how to live their lives (outside of callings like bishop or stake president or whatever).

Indy Coug · 11-20-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Let me translate this: only a small percentage of women pay any real heed or attention to women speakers.

Wrong translation.

Correct translation: Most of the women that heard it didn't have a problem with it.

JohnnyLingo · 11-20-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

By the same token, most women in the church don't feel the need to defend the talk with the same fervor as you and your compatriots do.

I'm not defending it. I just thought it was okay and nothing to get riled up about.

11-20-2007, 04:09 PM	#82
BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	The interesting thing about this is the bulk of women in the church really don't care what she said. They won't tell you this publicly, but they will privately. I have asked several of my feemale relatives who heard the talk what they thought. The working ones said no big deal, the stay at home ones said, no big deal. They basically thought it was the Relief Society President giving a talk in conference and it was no big deal. A small group on either side thought it was a significant talk.