Topics you never hear at Church

[non sequitur]

Originally Posted by The Borg

I have. I know of families that have been torn apart for this reason. What if the husband doesn't "desire" his wife anymore because after 3 or 4 kids, she doesn't have the body that she once had, or, that he is currently viewing? What if that guy wants her to do things that makes her uncomfortable, starts spending inordinate amounts of money to "view" this material...on and on it goes.

You don't have to view porn to become disaffected with your spouse. Porn is fantasy, like LOTR and WWE. I don't have to look at porn to know that my wife doesn't have the body she once had, and I don't need to look at porn to wish my wife would do things that she doesn't want to do. I'm not saying that porn is a good thing or a productive thing. I just don't think it's nearly as pernicious as many would have us believe.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by Archaea

My question is more for the experts among you: Mike and Creekster.

Will a man who has a healthy sexual relationship with his wife pursue a destructive level of porn perusal? Doesn't it really point something else?

It is my uninformed belief that such is not the case, but perhaps I err.

Why am I an expert?

In my opinion, yes, it can happen becasue the porn problem destroys the healthy relationship as it grows. See Borg's post about it.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Maybe a guy is secretitive.

Is secretitive a technical term?

[Sleeping in EQ]

NonSeq's observations intersect with my discussion of representations of sexuality in media in my infamous "rated-R film post" from last year. If you're curious enough to go through the archive...

[creekster]

Originally Posted by non sequitur

You don't have to view porn to become disaffected with your spouse.

You don't have to be stupidly drunk or stoned to act like an idiot, but being either will increase the likelihood rather dramatically

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by creekster

I was waiting for that sort of response. You'll note I said observations of others.

Moreover, looking at my post I realize that most of what I said would also apply to a cougarguard addiction.

Well, you must have modified your post, because my quote of you doesn't have the "of others". Of course, the "of others" could be their observations of your behavior.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Well, you must have modified your post, because my quote of you doesn't have the "of others". Of course, the "of others" could be their observations of your behavior.

Or did you modify it for me? Either way I believe the substance of what I said.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by creekster

Or did you modify it for me? Either way I believe the substance of what I said.

What me? All in good fun.

I don't have much experience in the field. The realm of my experiences is more limited than yours thankfully.

Of course, I remember porn for what it was once. Mine was limited, as a nonLDS to seeing your dad have the brown bag copy, to your mother's disgust, and stealing the neighbor's father's brown covered copy to oogle and something no parent would ever mention due to our Victorian era forties and fifties era parents.

Yeah my first memory of Mr. Kid across the street: "hey, Archaea come downstairs with me."

"Why?"

"Look what I got."

"Have you ever seen somebody who looks like that?"

"Ooh."

"hey want a beer?"

"To be a man."

"okay, gulp, yuck, spit that tastes like crap."

So entered the world of the average, nondescript seven year old into the world of porn and booze. Not much of an endorsement then or now.

[BigFatMeanie]

Originally Posted by grapevine

What about rebukes for writing to the brethern. We hear in conference I recieved this letter from such and such. How many times are we told not to write to GA's or to church headquarters though.

As we used to say in high school: "Whoever smelt it dealt it". Do you have some personal experience with this issue?

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by non sequitur

You don't have to view porn to become disaffected with your spouse. Porn is fantasy, like LOTR and WWE. I don't have to look at porn to know that my wife doesn't have the body she once had, and I don't need to look at porn to wish my wife would do things that she doesn't want to do. I'm not saying that porn is a good thing or a productive thing. I just don't think it's nearly as pernicious as many would have us believe.

When it comes to porn you couldn't be more wrong. There are fewer things out there more evil that are specifically designed by the Adversary to destroy the Family and destroy an individual's self worth.

Porn as you know comes in a variety of hardcore forms that lead to some of the worst evil around.