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[Sleeping in EQ]

Originally Posted by Tex

Did I do that? I don't remember that.

I do remember calling someone an apostate as a response to being called a mullah, but it was more to make a point than a serious allegation. Was that you? If it was, you probably deserved it, but I don't actually believe many here are true apostates (except those who proudly claim it).

Oh, you were not being "serious." You were just trying to make a "point." Of course! That clears everything up!

Does CES pay you by the word? Maybe you're funded by the Strengthening the Members committee?

[Tex]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

May I suggest a book for both of you to read? It is by a prominent church author and filled with helpful advice.

Thanks, but I'm having a great day already!

By the way, I looked it up. I didn't call anyone in specific an apostate. It was actually meant to mock ChinoCoug.

SIEQ chose to be offended all on his own.

http://cougarguard.com/forum/showpos...0&postcount=54

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

Oh, you were not being "serious." You were just trying to make a "point." Of course! That clears everything up!

Does CES pay you by the word? Maybe you're funded by the Strengthening the Members committee?

Here's another example.

http://cougarguard.com/forum/showpos...0&postcount=79

I work for the First Presidency. Be afraid.

[Sleeping in EQ]

Originally Posted by Tex

Thanks, but I'm having a great day already!

By the way, I looked it up. I didn't call anyone in specific an apostate. It was actually meant to mock ChinoCoug.

SIEQ chose to be offended all on his own.

http://cougarguard.com/forum/showpos...0&postcount=54

That was not the only part of the exchange, and you know it. Of course that won't stop you from being deceptive--but whatever.

And "mullah" simply is not in the same league as "apostate."

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

That was not the only part of the exchange, and you know it. Of course that won't stop you from being deceptive--but whatever.

I frankly don't understand why you are so mad. But if such a broad and weak accusation of "apostate" bothers you so much, maybe you'll think twice before dropping the words "mullah" and "fundie" on others.

Or maybe not. In either case, I'm done. Cheers!

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by Tex

I frankly don't understand why you are so mad. But if such a broad and weak accusation of "apostate" bothers you so much, maybe you'll think twice before dropping the words "mullah" and "fundie" on others.

Or maybe not. In either case, I'm done. Cheers!

At least you didn't ask him what "alternative voice" meant.

[Sleeping in EQ]

Originally Posted by Tex

I frankly don't understand why you are so mad. But if such a broad and weak accusation of "apostate" bothers you so much, maybe you'll think twice before dropping the words "mullah" and "fundie" on others.

Or maybe not. In either case, I'm done. Cheers!

Calling someone an apostate is serious business. It's meant to be an offensive description. Calling someone a "fundamentalist" does not have nearly the negative connotation. And "mullah" is meant to be playful in CGs usage, at least as I understand it. I may not like the fundamentalist approach to religion, but I'm fine with fundamentalists being the Church. By definition, no one wants apostates in the Church.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

Calling someone an apostate is serious business. It's meant to be an offensive description. Calling someone a "fundamentalist" does not have nearly the negative connotation. And "mullah" is meant to be playful in CGs usage, at least as I understand it. I may not like the fundamentalist approach to religion, but I'm fine with fundamentalists being the Church. By definition, no one wants apostates in the Church.

Playful? Hmmm....

I think the Tex's linked post earlier was highly relevant. Some people take umbrage to being called apostate and he takes umbrage at being called a mullah.

Both labels are mostly unfair, except for those that have outed themselves as such.

For you to deny the pejorative value of mullah while still clinging to the moral outrage at the descriptive use of apostate towards others is intellectually disingenuous at best.

[myboynoah]

I gotta agree with Indy; generally it is the offended that get's to decide what is and what is not offensive. Mullah and Apostate et al are all about context. To argue one is more offensive than another seems pointless.

Anyway, why don't SiEQ and Tex go get a room and just beat the hell out of each other.

[Sleeping in EQ]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Playful? Hmmm....

I think the Tex's linked post earlier was highly relevant. Some people take umbrage to being called apostate and he takes umbrage at being called a mullah.

Both labels are mostly unfair, except for those that have outed themselves as such.

For you to deny the pejorative value of mullah while still clinging to the moral outrage at the descriptive use of apostate towards others is intellectually disingenuous at best.

I hardly use the term "mullah," but there is no moral equivalence on this. "Apostate" is not a term that CG has appropriated to its own uses. What is so objectionable about mullah?