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Furthermore, when those results agree with other contemporary research, no matter how flawed the journey itself was in getting those results, they tend to not be scrutinized as closely. It can become a vicious cycle of self-fulfilling prophecy. |
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Tell you what, Indy. You're obviously the most gifted statistician and expert on predictive climate models around. Since none of the rest of us can really hope to respond to you, since your intelligence level is so much higher than ours, why don't you enlighten us by giving a detailed criticism of the methods and conclusions of one of the more comprehensive scientific reports on global climate change:
http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/index.htm With your education and experience, I'm sure you can enlighten the rest of us.
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Don't you think solar irradiation might be an important thing to measure and to understand? There's only so much heat that can come from cow flatulence. Last edited by Indy Coug; 06-17-2008 at 04:45 PM. |
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And although critics may not be sounding off correctly or accurately, there is some truth to the observation Indy makes about a community accepting finding what it finds. It probably doesn't explain away their findings, but there are margins of error and the philosophies of science do discuss bias of the community.
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I am no scientist, but I think the argument is more one of policy, like this:
"Global warming looks like it is happening, and there is observational and analytical support for its occurrence. While it is true that the science may be wrong or may be overstating the risk, the risk is so huge, so far-reaching and so catastrophic, that our policy MUST bow to the risk until we know for sure. If we figure out later it is not a risk associated with man's activities, we can always go back and burn oil to our heart's content." This is why the proponents of these policy changes dwell on the possible cataclysms. They are talking about shifting risk.
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In the absence of understanding how much global warming is anthropogenic and in the absence of understanding what, if anything, we can do to combat it, how much effort and money should we expend as a result? Do we expend trillions of dollars over the next couple of decades, when that money could be used to cure cancer, feed the poor or overthrow the BCS? |
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