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Old 06-26-2007, 07:32 PM   #61
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LOL, no we don't.
I was hoping I'd get a LOL out of that.

But if you really want to get down to it...our view of the Spirit World seperated into two areas Spirit Prison or Hell and Paradise or Heaven is nearly identical to the Christian Heaven and Hell concept. We just believe it's a holding area not a final destination.

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Old 06-26-2007, 08:00 PM   #62
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Yes we do. We have same Evangelical view of heaven and hell.
No we don't
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:01 PM   #63
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I was hoping I'd get a LOL out of that.

But if you really want to get down to it...our view of the Spirit World seperated into two areas Spirit Prison or Hell and Paradise or Heaven is nearly identical to the Christian Heaven and Hell concept. We just believe it's a holding area not a final destination.
Ok, in that sense I agree.
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Old 06-27-2007, 03:46 AM   #64
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This is the post that brought me out of lurkerdom.

In short, people fear what they do not understand. The basic problem here is not with your church, it is with our church leadership. It is generally understood in the Baptist church that the Mormon faith is a cult* and since we wouldn't want to be brainwashed by y'all, we must avoid you all together. We are never given the chance to understand your faith and are taught to avoid y'all, lest we are brainwashed.

*not my personal belief
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Old 06-27-2007, 02:47 PM   #65
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I wouldn't blame this on BYU or LDS in Utah. Growing up outside of Utah in a land where BYU was mostly hated by the ward members, that attitude of we have to be better than everyone else to prove the Mormon church is true was loud and clear.
You must be from Wyoming?
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You must be from Wyoming?
No, just Ogden.
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Old 06-27-2007, 02:53 PM   #67
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This is the post that brought me out of lurkerdom.

In short, people fear what they do not understand. The basic problem here is not with your church, it is with our church leadership. It is generally understood in the Baptist church that the Mormon faith is a cult* and since we wouldn't want to be brainwashed by y'all, we must avoid you all together. We are never given the chance to understand your faith and are taught to avoid y'all, lest we are brainwashed.

*not my personal belief
It is true of all things unique. Some people are exocentric, but I imagine sociologists would find most people are endocentric. Many leaders can play upon that bias.
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Old 06-27-2007, 02:58 PM   #68
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This is the post that brought me out of lurkerdom.

In short, people fear what they do not understand. The basic problem here is not with your church, it is with our church leadership. It is generally understood in the Baptist church that the Mormon faith is a cult* and since we wouldn't want to be brainwashed by y'all, we must avoid you all together. We are never given the chance to understand your faith and are taught to avoid y'all, lest we are brainwashed.

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It would be my opinion that leaders have a fear of losing their followers. When it comes to religion, that fear only becomes heightened.

While our leaders don't back off of proclaiming they have the full truth, I myself am glad they have backed off of calling other religions names and denegrading their beliefs.
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It would be my opinion that leaders have a fear of losing their followers. When it comes to religion, that fear only becomes heightened.

While our leaders don't back off of proclaiming they have the full truth, I myself am glad they have backed off of calling other religions names and denegrading their beliefs.
Somebody already summarized it better than I've seen it in a long time, we are critisized for claiming to belong to the authentic Church with authority, but others claim to have the authentic belief. How is that different?

And if we are persecuted for our belief in the authentic Church, how are evangelicals any better than Islamic terroists who persecute Christians and Jews for not worshing as they do.
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And if we are persecuted for our belief in the authentic Church, how are evangelicals any better than Islamic terroists who persecute Christians and Jews for not worshing as they do.
Evangelicals, as far as I'm aware, aren't currently deporting, imprisoning and killing other Christians and Jews for not worshipping as they do.
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