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UtahDan · 06-07-2008, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tex

I actually chucked out loud at this.

I can only hope it was with me and not at me.

YOhio · 06-07-2008, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Even worse than SU is his obnoxious little brother SeattleNewt.

Eat it Waters. SU and I are sick of your shit and you may come to regret your ill treatment of us.

jay santos · 06-07-2008, 03:53 AM

El Paso, just because you left the church, I doubt if you'd start being a dickhead.

Ma'ake · 06-07-2008, 04:17 AM

(I wonder where SU is? I'll pinch hit)

I used to believe. I took it all very seriously. I decided I just couldn't believe it anymore & went off into a dark period of doubt & anxiety. It was not fun, at all. All things considered, I don't recommend this course. (My hunch is SU would agree with this, to some extent)

I believe again, but in a very different set of beliefs than I had before. I can understand how some of you guys think you'd conclude there is no higher power, and that was essentially where I was. It was pretty scary, to be honest with you. I admire those who can effectively put their doubts "on the shelf".

After a lot of soul searching, tons of reading, contemplation, prayer and attending many religious ceremonies / spiritual experiences (in both formal and informal belief systems, christian and non), I've come to a very good place in my own spiritual journey. It hasn't been easy, but I'm in a much better place, a position I can rationalize much better, my own "faith" is pretty strong, not really subject to any litmus tests.

The anger others feel is understandable... I've been there, sometimes I still get bent, but for the most part, I feel I'm past that. Time heals.

Have I completely "left" the church? You can't shed your upbringing completely, and I find these topics to be very interesting.

There is so much in Mormonism that is positive and attractive... "true". The same can be said for just about all other faith systems.

(Waters - I'm not trying knock anyone off their beliefs, honest.)

SeattleUte · 06-07-2008, 06:15 AM

I agree I that in terms of winning converts to my creed my record is worse than the Miami Dolphins last year. But I am very tenacious. I will keep trying only because it is the right thing to do.

SeattleUte · 06-07-2008, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ma'ake

(I wonder where SU is? I'll pinch hit)

I used to believe. I took it all very seriously. I decided I just couldn't believe it anymore & went off into a dark period of doubt & anxiety. It was not fun, at all. All things considered, I don't recommend this course. (My hunch is SU would agree with this, to some extent)

I believe again, but in a very different set of beliefs than I had before. I can understand how some of you guys think you'd conclude there is no higher power, and that was essentially where I was. It was pretty scary, to be honest with you. I admire those who can effectively put their doubts "on the shelf".

After a lot of soul searching, tons of reading, contemplation, prayer and attending many religious ceremonies / spiritual experiences (in both formal and informal belief systems, christian and non), I've come to a very good place in my own spiritual journey. It hasn't been easy, but I'm in a much better place, a position I can rationalize much better, my own "faith" is pretty strong, not really subject to any litmus tests.

The anger others feel is understandable... I've been there, sometimes I still get bent, but for the most part, I feel I'm past that. Time heals.

Have I completely "left" the church? You can't shed your upbringing completely, and I find these topics to be very interesting.

There is so much in Mormonism that is positive and attractive... "true". The same can be said for just about all other faith systems.

(Waters - I'm not trying knock anyone off their beliefs, honest.)

Yes, I have have found a unified truth.

TripletDaddy · 06-07-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

I agree I that in terms of winning converts to my creed my record is worse than the Miami Dolphins last year. But I am very tenacious. I will keep trying only because it is the right thing to do.

SeattleUte · 06-11-2008, 05:15 AM

bump

FMCoug · 06-11-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

bump

Narcissist!

Jeff Lebowski · 06-11-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FMCoug

Narcissist!

Most of us can only dream of having entire threads devoted to us. We have unwittingly made SU a franchise.

06-07-2008, 04:17 AM	#64
Ma'ake Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SLC Posts: 441	(I wonder where SU is? I'll pinch hit) I used to believe. I took it all very seriously. I decided I just couldn't believe it anymore & went off into a dark period of doubt & anxiety. It was not fun, at all. All things considered, I don't recommend this course. (My hunch is SU would agree with this, to some extent) I believe again, but in a very different set of beliefs than I had before. I can understand how some of you guys think you'd conclude there is no higher power, and that was essentially where I was. It was pretty scary, to be honest with you. I admire those who can effectively put their doubts "on the shelf". After a lot of soul searching, tons of reading, contemplation, prayer and attending many religious ceremonies / spiritual experiences (in both formal and informal belief systems, christian and non), I've come to a very good place in my own spiritual journey. It hasn't been easy, but I'm in a much better place, a position I can rationalize much better, my own "faith" is pretty strong, not really subject to any litmus tests. The anger others feel is understandable... I've been there, sometimes I still get bent, but for the most part, I feel I'm past that. Time heals. Have I completely "left" the church? You can't shed your upbringing completely, and I find these topics to be very interesting. There is so much in Mormonism that is positive and attractive... "true". The same can be said for just about all other faith systems. (Waters - I'm not trying knock anyone off their beliefs, honest.) Last edited by Ma'ake; 06-07-2008 at 04:22 AM.

06-07-2008, 06:15 AM	#65
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	I agree I that in terms of winning converts to my creed my record is worse than the Miami Dolphins last year. But I am very tenacious. I will keep trying only because it is the right thing to do. __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster

06-11-2008, 05:15 AM	#68
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	bump __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster

06-07-2008, 03:53 AM	#63
jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	El Paso, just because you left the church, I doubt if you'd start being a dickhead.