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Old 10-23-2008, 09:49 PM   #51
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And using one's military to procure other nations' natural resources is?

you never cease to crack me up.
Show me any time in the history of nations when this has not been so? I recognize the rational, European approach, but it has never really worked. Armies open doors for their own nations or for those that follow. German, Sweden and France have gone through the doors opened by the US in China.

History teaches me, the more things change the more things remain the same, and at no time in the history of humanity or civilizations have martial forces not be involved in procuring commercial channels. So why should things change?

And another fundamental disagreement, societies at large in dealing with other nation states do not behave nor should they be expected to behave as we expect individuals to behave. It doesn't happen and only Jimmy Carter introduced that failed notion. Emotionally I can see its appeal, but my left brain tells me that approach will not work.
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:51 PM   #52
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Why are you so defensive about Canada? Did I diss the Maple Leaf somewhere? Do you feel Canada is a socialist country?
It's OK Tex, everyone has an off day now and then.
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:15 PM   #53
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Show me any time in the history of nations when this has not been so? I recognize the rational, European approach, but it has never really worked. Armies open doors for their own nations or for those that follow.
ohmygosh. Someone really needs to clue in you and GW that the age of empire ended roughly a hundred years ago.
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:21 PM   #54
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ohmygosh. Someone really needs to clue in you and GW that the age of empire ended roughly a hundred years ago.
Babs, no it didn't. I could argue it has simply refined itself, and wears different clothing.

When a nation state as France uses government espionage to capture commercial secrets on behalf of its multi-nationals, or even Israel, it is the elite who fool themselves into thinking that nation states behave any differently.

Europe simply walks in behind the US after we do the dirty work, and Japan has a history of this as well. The US has been unwise to allow it.

I may appear clueless but actually am more in tune than those who think themselves wise. The world requires street smarts, not academicians. And perhaps I am clueless as you implied, but don't mistake me for Bush, next thing, you call me Exie.
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:27 PM   #55
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The world requires street smarts, not academicians.
In other words, the world needs me, not you!
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:37 PM   #56
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In other words, the world needs me, not you!
Lol. So the L&W, silver-spooned wunderkind is more street smart than the frontier entrepreneur having risen from coal miner, blue collar stock.

You and Obama two of a kind. Let me know how prep school was. We fought it out on the streets.
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Lol. So the L&W, silver-spooned wunderkind is more street smart than the frontier entrepreneur having risen from coal miner, blue collar stock.

You and Obama two of a kind. Let me know how prep school was. We fought it out on the streets.
You think I had it easy going to TOHS?

My senior year, I waited too long to get an on-campus parking pass, so I had to park my car across the street every day. Don't even get me started.
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Lol. So the L&W, silver-spooned wunderkind is more street smart than the frontier entrepreneur having risen from coal miner, blue collar stock.

You and Obama two of a kind. Let me know how prep school was. We fought it out on the streets.
oh, jeez.
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You were a Jet weren't you?

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You think I had it easy going to TOHS?

My senior year, I waited too long to get an on-campus parking pass, so I had to park my car across the street every day. Don't even get me started.
oh, yeah? Well I bet Archaea, like, totally didn't even have a car! He like had to borrow his dad's!! And not even the Mercedes, either...the domestic. How awful is that??
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