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Old 01-19-2006, 08:45 PM   #51
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Old 01-19-2006, 08:45 PM   #52
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I think the only language not allowed on here is the lords name in vain and f word. Nigger and queer gets by here ok. I only use them to describe certian people thoug. Queers gay people. Have used Nigger on here in certian contexts its not really appropriate though. Talking about illegitimite children using bastard that is the name but isnt polite to call them that. Word better describes people that father them sperm donors than walk away. I dont think people should use any profanity anyway use subs for it unless it really means the word.
I personally find the N word word a lot more offensive than the F word or the G word.
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Old 01-19-2006, 08:47 PM   #53
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I guess I should have defined 'taboo' before I threw out that challenge.

Taboo: A ban or an inhibition resulting from social custom or emotional aversion.

For most people, homosexuality is simply taboo. Pointing out others' taboos is not, in itself, taboo.
What is your take on farting in public?
How about public defecation? :wink:
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Old 01-19-2006, 08:56 PM   #54
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Old 01-19-2006, 09:38 PM   #55
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You missed the most important part of what I would teach my children about sexuality -- to have as thorough an understanding as possible of what the sex act would mean for all parties involved, and to make a considerate choice based on that information. If I have succeeded by that point in helping my son develop a spirit of genuine kindness, love and generosity, I doubt he would choose to have sex with the 14-year-old unless he genuinely thought it was in her best interests. So yes, in the end he might choose that. And yes, in the end, it might prove to be a poor choice. But if I had taught the boy correct principles, I would not have a problem with the choice that he finally made. Of course one of the principles that I would also teach him (and we haven't talked about this one yet) is to be responsible for the results of our choices. That alone might prevent him from having sex with the 14-year old.
I find this amusing, in a friendly sort of way. It reminds me of this old comic I once saw where a couplf of guys in lab coats holding clipboards, (i.e. scientists) are looking out the window as a Godzilla type creature ravishes the cityscape behind them. One of the guys is saying to the other "Perhaps if we tried to reason with it."

At six reasoning is OK. At 17, full of hormones, all the knidness, reasoning and consideration in the world will quickly yield to bad judgement and then only certain bright line stops, such as 'my old man will kill me' will come between action and inaction. You will probably say that my conclusion assumes that the child was raised with dreaded taboos which make the child react and act in repsonse. That is probably partially true. But after seeing my three children and how different their personalities are, and how difrrerntly they react to various stimuli, I am convinced that bright line stops are essential (although the reason behind them should be used, too).

WHen your son starts to drive a car my guess is that your judgement will casue you to dictate certain rules, whether or not your son accepts your reasoning, and whether or not the rules are based on gospel or other priniciples. I could be wrong, but that is my prediction.
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Old 01-19-2006, 10:22 PM   #56
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How much you swear can also indicate your socioeconomic status.
I don't think this holds true anymore. I've been around all levels of people and find that nowadays, most people just cuss at will and often in any situation. Maybe it's also dependent upon how long you've been in the strata and the nouveau riche (athletes, rappers, whatever) that ascend quickly don't adjust, but it seems to permeate more than just those groups, IMO.
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Old 01-19-2006, 10:28 PM   #57
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Outside of a sensible and sensitive approach to sex, I have no problem with having a sexually active child.
At first I thought this said "I have no problem putting a naked picture of my 6 year old son on the internet" and then I realized that it didn't.
I wouldn't have a problem posting a nude photo of a child on the internet, if it was not pornographic. I think it is a bad idea to let the perverts of the world set our standards of propriety. You do that, and the terrorists win :wink:
Perhaps you don't post the picture with the intention of it being pornographic, but don't you worry about the picture of your son being exploited by others in a pornographic way?
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Old 01-19-2006, 10:34 PM   #58
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Profanity is a shortcut for finer expression.

Not everybody here ascribes to who President Kimball was, but he stated, "Profanity is the effort of a weak mind seeking to express itself forcefully."

I do profane from time to time, not that I'm proud of it.

To me, profanity is simply laziness. There are always more colorful ways of expression, I'm just too lazy to think them up.

There is one expression which describes certain situations for which I have not been able to find an adequate substitute. "Mind f...".

I tend to agree with Archaea. I have never felt inadequate in expressing myself by not using profanity. The occasional profanity dropped on this board does not bother me, however. The majority of posts on this board show people to be literate, well-read, and fairly good at expressing themselves.

I truly hate the f... word. It's origin is one of true ugliness.
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