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Old 08-03-2006, 05:42 PM   #51
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Yeah, the difference is that Marriott's version of porn is far more accessible than the porn shop's and is more profitable. Hotel porn is a massive industry.
I agree 100%.

What is a bigger temptation for a person?

Walking into a porn shop and buying his/her favorite Jenna video?

or...

Turning on a hotel television and ordering a lewd movie?

I watch.....errr.....I would be much more tempted to watch porn in my hotel room, than in my home.
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Old 08-03-2006, 05:45 PM   #52
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Wow, how people twist things to fit their paradigms.

Somehow selling, profitting, and advertising alcohol, tobacco, porn is not providing for and encouraging certain industries. Somehow the topic of du jour of the past priesthood conferences is not as official as the announcement made by the brethren regarding gay marriage.

I think more than anything it shows that we are so miseducated about the ills of homosexuality, that so afraid of homosexuals, that we push aside all reason and look on the sinners, and not the sin.

Practicing homosexualism according to LDS dogma will prevent someone from the celestial kingdom just as much as drinking alcohol.
I understand your point, and I also see that you've tried to change the subject to fit your argument. Whatever works for you.

If you want to get down to the bare bones of the issue here, then lets. The Marriots own hotels and sell porn in those hotels...if that bothers you, don't stay in their hotel and promote their pornmongering anymore. That way, you'll be in the clear and won't be confused with supporting a group that goes against the church.

What you've done here in the scope of this argument is essentially say that because the marriots sell porn, it's ok to support gay marraige. Or am I missing something greater in your argument?

I would also like to know how we've all been miseducated to think that homosexuality is immoral.
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Old 08-03-2006, 05:48 PM   #53
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LOL. Good one.



Yeah, the difference is that Marriott's version of porn is far more accessible than the porn shop's and is more profitable. Hotel porn is a massive industry.

Have the Marriots ever been asked about or addressed this issue?
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Old 08-03-2006, 05:57 PM   #54
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Default With respect to the Marriotts....

I believe their industry works like this. Marriotts own and operate the brand name. They develop the types of motels and market the product. However, the individual hotels and resorts are usually owned and operated by someone else. They turn over a portion of all their revenues (inluding the bown bicha bown bown in the privacy of your own room free for alls we are discussing) to the Marriott Corporation, but I understand the local owners and operators have the freedom to choose what services are offered at their individual hotels and resorts.

I am sure there are some Marriotts owned by card carrying mormons, so this does little with respect to the philosophical debate and mud-slinging us Mormons do so well, but I would like to at least excuse the specific family from being held as an example of LDS Larry K. Flynt's as I understand it is not exactly within their direct control.

Saying that I am sure they understand the persuasive argument the statement of cash flows makes.
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Old 08-03-2006, 05:58 PM   #55
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They don't own hotels, they own a minority interest of stock in a publicly traded corporation where others make daily business decisions. Why those stockholders should be critisized for something somebody else did is beyond me.

And we don't know anything about its profitability. My guess is it's very ancillary and perhaps de minimis, but just another line item.
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They don't own hotels, they own a minority interest of stock in a publicly traded corporation where others make daily business decisions. Why those stockholders should be critisized for something somebody else did is beyond me.

And we don't know anything about its profitability. My guess is it's very ancillary and perhaps de minimis, but just another line item.
Out of site, out of mind right?

It's easy to cash a paycheck, conscious free, when you don't know how that money is gained.

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So, it's okay to pimp as long as you're not the one turning tricks?

Let's hope so. Otherwise, I may need a new job...
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Have the Marriots ever been asked about or addressed this issue?
Good question. I have no idea how much control they have over the decision. I believe they are minority stock-holders at this point.

And to clarify, my comments above are related to the hotel industry (including Marriott) and not on the Marriott family. I have no idea how much say they have in the matter. But it always amuses me to watch how LDS people defend (or downplay) the hotel industry.
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Old 08-03-2006, 06:15 PM   #59
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What you've done here in the scope of this argument is essentially say that because the marriots sell porn, it's ok to support gay marraige. Or am I missing something greater in your argument?

I would also like to know how we've all been miseducated to think that homosexuality is immoral.
My point is that it's a mighty slippery slope. If bishops begin revoking recommends because a person supports gay marriage, than what next?

Porn, alcohol, tobacco, lewdness, etc, all contribute to the destruction of the family infinitely more than gay marriage. If the church leadership will start rejecting people for their views on gay marriage, the church leadership needs to start pulling the recommends of business owners, workers, who contribute to the industries that rape our society.

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Good question. I have no idea how much control over the decision. I believe they are minority stock-holders at this point.

And to clarify, my comments above are related to the hotel porn industry (including Marriott) and not on the Marriott family. I have no idea how much say they have in the matter. But it always amuses me to watch how LDS people defend (or downplay) the hotel porn industry.
So you're after selling your porn stock, is that how you retired?

Your knowledge of porn and its profits rivals that of Goatnapper, bless his perverted soul.
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