01-08-2008, 08:07 PM | #41 |
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Jay, what do you mean by early Christians? I don't think you see anything like the trinity develop in Christianity until Origen. So early third century. I could be wrong but I think guys like Tertullian believed in an embodied God.
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Of course I understand why it would matter to the dispassionate observer, but when it comes to the church I'm not sure I've met one of those.
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Bad term. I'm talking the era leading up to Nicene creed.
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Is the Mormons' "Father" different from the Father worshipped and prayed to by the Hebrews in the OT?
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It seems some Hebrew scribes might not have understood the same way as Mormons.
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SU, is interesting in this thread. He wants to once again to point out that Mormons believe the Jehovah = Jesus and Jehovah = God in the OT so "lets call the whole thing off." (i.e. the theological concept of divine investiture of authority proves the whole thing is a scam in SU eyes and he can't believe we could know about the issue and not think it is a scam).
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As a gadfly, I appreciate the consistency he provides, but he needs some new source material.
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Typical.
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While he does detail 2 personages in that lecture, we also have him speaking of the Father as a personage of spirit. It does seem as though even Joseph's understanding of the Godhead grew over time.
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