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Here are more links to ancient seafarers. http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/H...s/Prakash.html http://www.museum.upenn.edu/new/news....php?which=184
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I'd rather not get into the details, as I really don't have any particular angst against Mormon beliefs and have never frequented anti-mormon websites. I just find absolutely no reason to believe that any part of the story has any merit whatsoever. I find most of the Bible to be nearly as fantastical, and generally make it a rule to not believe anything without good reason, regardless of its status as theoretically possible or not disprovable. Much of fantasy is based upon potential realism.
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For me, the journey, based on my interest in ancient seafarers is plausible, even if unlikely. Most who ventured such journeys failed, but a few succeeded. We will never disprove or prove the event. Whether they represent literal events or inspired fiction is unknowable to us at the current time. However, to call a journey at that point in time to be fantastical is not supported by knowledge of seafarers. Unlikely it would be successful is a truer statement, but fantastical no.
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Now I have been known to miss the point before, and maybe I did here, but I have rarely seen someone as arrogant and certain about their own knowledge and abilities without demonstrated cause as you.
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I have purported to state that Nephite journey is supported by empirical evidence. There isn't any, unless one wishes to point to an isolated pillar somewhere in the Arabian pennisula with a Nephite name on it. Most traditions are not based on "evidence", but that doesn't automatically make them fantastical. Your argument doesn't hold water.
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But that is exactly the point! You told arch htat it was obvious from the begining and that he must have reading comprehsnion problems and yet it was a post (as are most posts here which we throw up with little thought) that was readily subject to multiple reasonable interpreations. Rather than simply say what you meant, you felt the need to insult his reading comprehenion and claim that you couldn't imagine how to make it any clearer! Nonetheless you now tell me that you were here all along and could easily explain the now apparently acknowledged possible ambiguity. Speaking of reading comrehension, I didn't try to shoehorn your words into any particualr meaning. I simply poonted out they were susceptible to multiple meanings and that it was hard to say what they really meant. So don't accuse me of desiring to make your words fit my interpretation. I don't have one and didn't present one. I am still interested to see the evidence about the woven mat voyages. Seriously, this is nto a set up. I am simply interested in it.
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