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What a complete waste of my time.
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1. I may be wrong, but I believe studies indicate that boys raised with two gay men as parents are not more likely to be gay.
2. I know my brother desperately did not want to be gay. He even went through counseling with Bishops and such in hopes of reversing it. Whether my brother has a married male spouse versus a male live-in long-term partner will probably not be a factor in whether any of my kids become gay. I think what Levin is trying to say is that any possible knowledge or reference to a relative regarding his gayness should be avoided, up to and and including completely disowning that relative and not allowing ones kids to know of his existence. Maybe I am reading it wrong. Regardless, I choose not to live that way. |
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I'm not asking for speculation or windbaggery. You have the burden of proof here. Despite the enormous efforts of people like you not a shred of evidence has been discovered to support what you're saying.
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Some things never change.
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I dont think anyone (from what I can tell) finds you unintelligent....just an aloof pompous know-it-all who is devoid of compassion or meaningful life experience. Hey wait....are we talking about you or me? Again, I invite you.....are you married? kids? where do you live? what do you do? Stop being such a tool and engage within the community.
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You are correct. This is the scientific evidence. Hence gay adoptions and gay custody arrangements have become fairly routine. Moreover, there is no evidence people choose to be gay.
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My brother in law (whom I have known since he was 8 years old and is now 24) also went to extensive LDS counseling to try and "cure" his homosexuality. He remains "uncured".
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It would be far too narcissistic for me to continue in this thread. Cheers.
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